From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18487 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2021 19:33:12 -0000 Received: from tb-ob21.topicbox.com (173.228.157.67) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Aug 2021 19:33:12 -0000 Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (tb-mx1.nyi.icgroup.com [10.90.30.61]) by tb-ob21.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEA22E713 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:33:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bounce.mMdf57cc50805611bffb0c569b.r522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa@9fans.bounce.topicbox.com) Received: by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix, from userid 1132) id 1A3793322687; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:33:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=9fans.net; h=to:subject :message-id:references:in-reply-to:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:list-help:list-id :list-post:list-subscribe:reply-to:list-unsubscribe; s=dkim-1; bh=itGgOXTZGOMVwty1Ou6A6e2hkZomgjXoDclCVpNdBus=; b=WpKqZUAZ2DuC ZgR0K30SpaQ/exCSVOImyHMIVvdvoEQ9wok5j1YGta7Syv03r9xRDP2Njpxwv0fJ pFEB3VKrgRG+FpeyNacZuDnBLCHIGB81cB1vonaZWdpwBmjipI6b6urKxjaFiVDq prvYzOA6ohGkwFRc6J7yjWNk6PEvhX8= To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Software philosophy Message-Id: <16293151820.7F7690f.28382@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:33:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="16293151821.8dD16F0.28382" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1a314788-005b-11ec-942a-a9f39034e1fa Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UOWVmNjQzMGYzMDI1ZTczMS1NZGY1N2NjNTA4MDU2MTFiZmZiMGM1?= =?UTF-8?B?NjliPg==?= From: "leimy2k via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mdf57cc50805611bffb0c569b:1:TOIyMIWsQ4Uyg3tU4NYWZV2UwHN-ZqPaiTbgWES_8cw --16293151821.8dD16F0.28382 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:33:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don=E2=80=99t think the basic philosophy of Plan 9 and 9front really diff= er that much or in any deeply meaningful ways. I find 9front more usable fo= r my needs. Sshnet works well, as does sshfs, and the smaller changes to th= e behaviors of Sam, rio RC shell windows etc (ctrl-b especially) seem to ma= ke a rather big difference to usability. Should there be an =E2=80=9Cupstre= am=E2=80=9D relationship here? I honestly can=E2=80=99t tell. The confluence of the forks isn=E2=80=99t clear, and flow depends on where = one stands it seems. The only negative outcome of forking is if we get to the point we can no lo= nger share I think. Some investment in compatibility seems wise. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-Mdf57c= c50805611bffb0c569b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --16293151821.8dD16F0.28382 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:33:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don’t think the basic= philosophy of Plan 9 and 9front really differ that much or in any deeply m= eaningful ways. I find 9front more usable for my needs. Sshnet works well, = as does sshfs, and the smaller changes to the behaviors of Sam, rio RC shel= l windows etc (ctrl-b especially) seem to make a rather big difference to u= sability. Should there be an “upstream” relationship here? I ho= nestly can’t tell.

The confluence of= the forks isn’t clear, and flow depends on where one stands it seems= .

The only negative outcome of forking is = if we get to the point we can no longer share I think. Some investment in c= ompatibility seems wise.

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