From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20692 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2022 00:29:23 -0000 Received: from tb-ob1.topicbox.com (64.147.108.173) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Jan 2022 00:29:23 -0000 Received: from tb-mx0.topicbox.com (tb-mx0.nyi.icgroup.com [10.90.30.73]) by tb-ob1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239312E91D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:29:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bounce.mMcbcabe564e19fafe76ecbd35.r522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa@9fans.bounce.topicbox.com) Received: by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix, from userid 1132) id 1D1D11130A84; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:29:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=9fans.net; h=from:to :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-help:list-id :list-post:list-subscribe:reply-to:list-unsubscribe; s=dkim-1; bh=8T/6YpSX1qVIgLFf5cerptVPxu/eum7i9qwBcbxtfWQ=; b=MYORnAwqOpyC uInU4BHJcfvXIM2okyxQGcm1514SGXedAonvBxYlWH4NNqUs+UAydZG07xjutEy4 Rhxs/nyAz9/xjccym6I4b+OuJdf+tImDf55Bgue1AyuffhFFhUCNrgkeG/a9bnaO ndVK9OSn9AvSxEQ3QXn6zKz0VebR8SY= From: Matt To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work? Message-Id: <16424657580.fe246AE3F.762336@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> In-Reply-To: References: <16424615390.0F13B68C3.21800@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16424622620.b9EedC5.684450@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:29:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=16424657581.aB6A587A.762336 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: ac74d8fa-77f5-11ec-a40a-d5f0232d11b0 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UMzk1MTU2ZDRmMmIwMGNkZS1NY2JjYWJlNTY0ZTE5ZmFmZTc2ZWNi?= =?UTF-8?B?ZDM1Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mcbcabe564e19fafe76ecbd35:1:A3F9cKsmJVpbydQZnW-wLhtwvR3Bkkd-gXYswewSDtk --16424657581.aB6A587A.762336 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:29:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, January 17, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Sigrid Solveig Hafl=C3=ADnud=C3=B3= ttir wrote: > I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. There is also software developed outside of 9front git repo, by people who use 9front: http://only9fans.com Whether some "secret community" decide= s to "accept" (or not) 9front as "official" doesn't matter. I see. Now that I look at it, 9fans its more similar to 9front than Plan 9 = indeed. My confusion arose from the description being "Fans of the OS Plan = 9 from Bell Labs". Besides that, the subreddit is r/plan9, and people seem = to talk more often about Plan 9 itself than 9front. Thanks for clearing it = up. On Monday, January 17, 2022, at 9:21 PM, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > All wrong. From my perspective 9front is plan 9 from the future > compared to today's plan 9. 9front development moves at a much faster > pace thanks to adopting tools like mercurial in the past and now git. > That enables devs who are passionate about moving plan 9 forward > commit access using tools they, and most of today's developers are > already intimate with. It has virtualization, modern encryption, > cleaned up pci code, rc fixes, boot clean up, and so much more. >=20 > The mailing list is very active and crawling with devs eager to review > and apply fixes. It has a lot of enthusiastic energy behind it and > keeps the core philosophy of plan 9 alive. This has attracted many > wonderful and talented devs who would have otherwise stumbled with the > old defaults of legacy. >=20 > Personally, I struggled with plan 9 until finding 9front. I run a CPU > server at home 24/7 and it's been running reliably for years. I then > netboot or tcp boot everything else. I love working with this > operating system. That's really great. I'm also interested and quite enthusiastic about worki= ng with 9front. Although, I'd have more chances of winning a competition fo= r the worst developer... Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T395156d4f2b00cde-Mcbcab= e564e19fafe76ecbd35 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --16424657581.aB6A587A.762336 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:29:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, Jan= uary 17, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote= :
I'm afraid you got it wrong. Com= munity is mostly centered around 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. There is also software developed outside of 9front git repo, by people who use 9front:
All wrong. From my perspective 9front is plan 9 from the fut= ure
compared to today's plan 9. 9front development move= s at a much faster
pace thanks to adopting tools like mercu= rial in the past and now git.
That enables devs who are pas= sionate about moving plan 9 forward
commit access using too= ls they, and most of today's developers are
already int= imate with. It has virtualization, modern encryption,
clean= ed up pci code, rc fixes, boot clean up, and so much more.
=
The mailing list is very active and crawling with devs eag= er to review
and apply fixes. It has a lot of enthusiastic = energy behind it and
keeps the core philosophy of plan 9 al= ive. This has attracted many
wonderful and talented devs wh= o would have otherwise stumbled with the
old defaults of le= gacy.

Personally, I struggled with plan 9 = until finding 9front. I run a CPU
server at home 24/7 and i= t's been running reliably for years. I then
netboot or = tcp boot everything else. I love working with this
operatin= g system.
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