From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30436 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2022 14:08:16 -0000 Received: from tb-ob1.topicbox.com (64.147.108.173) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2022 14:08:16 -0000 Received: from tb-mx0.topicbox.com (tb-mx0.nyi.icgroup.com [10.90.30.73]) by tb-ob1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F242D25E for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bounce.mM16ce34d043025f8cd079636e.r522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa@9fans.bounce.topicbox.com) Received: by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix, from userid 1132) id 7158E144BC04; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=9fans.net; h=to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:list-help:list-id :list-post:list-subscribe:reply-to:list-unsubscribe; s=dkim-1; bh=aOxYGzEq77EEVPuT2cls/HZbIk89/4H31uR0LHGy8JQ=; b=FOnT+vfzurLU A1vMWD9EdPeakOIq28VkTtLC3pfmLre3pB4fRfmJPEHEd6DYToTrF4JsLN8z2SI4 Yb/JQtkHQKS/u7xvWubbJw+Le22z8dVU6vTs+MNksNpBz4H2GZ1wzXKT/OyWg4mX Z6j3AthtyMnBO+53JyJoq/3YjOUKdlk= To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] licence question Message-Id: <16434652910.557dFF03.267022@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> In-Reply-To: References: <16433324650.ff90B.935638@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16433713090.e62E5Cc03.507002@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16434613850.BC38c.59069@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:08:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=16434652911.5d4f3dFB.267022 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: e486b306-810c-11ec-b77f-33da212d11b0 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UM2UwN2JmZGYyNjNhODNjOC1NMTZjZTM0ZDA0MzAyNWY4Y2QwNzk2?= =?UTF-8?B?MzZlPg==?= From: "ibrahim via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M16ce34d043025f8cd079636e:1:EpxRqNGf6zamHOJ8Y9w7jvViBf2MmksqqZbUbYHRNBM --16434652911.5d4f3dFB.267022 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:08:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, 29 January 2022, at 2:24 PM, hiro wrote: > i don't buy the argument that source code would be too big. for just one subject in school i had to download many gigabytes of quartus, over a decade ago. our source is nowhere near that big. 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A great amount of this size is caused by= hand written sample solution scans for past exams provided as 300dpi image= s (png or ppm). Most of my notes are handwritten cause this way to provide = solutions for exam questions is faster and simpler. Some of the teachings a= re provided as ogg vorbis files. The system part regarding Freebsd and X11 can be reduced by using plan9 dra= matically. My own software has a few MB. In the plan9 distribution I will u= se a new image format based on horizontal scanlines using 256 colors. This = has an acceptable quality is faster to render and the size of the image fil= es will shrink to about 25%.=20 800 MB aren't only the sources they include the base course material. The a= pplication has to make this material visible, usable and allow students to = connect to deliver their assignments ask questions get back hand written no= tes and to exchange information with others using this closed network.=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T3e07bfdf263a83c8-M16ce3= 4d043025f8cd079636e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --16434652911.5d4f3dFB.267022 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:08:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Saturday, 29 January 2022, at 2:24 PM, hiro= wrote:
i don't buy the argument t= hat source code would be too big. for just one subject in school i had to download many gigabytes of quartus, over a decade ago. our source is nowhere near that big.
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A kiosk application for educational purposes in subjec= ts not involving programming consists of tools for viewing texts, animation= s,  images, a calculator a plotter and an interface do upload pictures= taken from your handwritten assignments. There is also a chat platform for= group chats and individual talking. The whole plattform uses TCP/IP as its= only communication protocol avoiding existing RFC standards. The GUI is si= milar to a web site but looks more like a desktop with windows where all to= ols like calculator, chat clients, upload tools are represented by floating= windows. Nothing more and nothing less. The purpose of this application is= not teaching the students how to realize such a platform but the subjects = they need to pass their exams at university. There is no benefit for the st= udents to learn how to realize such a platform and thats also not the goal = of this project.

My Freebsd version has no= w 800 MB. A great amount of this size is caused by hand written sample solu= tion scans for past exams provided as 300dpi images (png or ppm). Most of m= y notes are handwritten cause this way to provide solutions for exam questi= ons is faster and simpler. Some of the teachings are provided as ogg vorbis= files.

The system part regarding Freebsd = and X11 can be reduced by using plan9 dramatically. My own software has a f= ew MB. In the plan9 distribution I will use a new image format based on hor= izontal scanlines using 256 colors. This has an acceptable quality is faste= r to render and the size of the image files will shrink to about 25%.

800 MB aren't only the sources they includ= e the base course material. The application has to make this material visib= le, usable and allow students to connect to deliver their assignments ask q= uestions get back hand written notes and to exchange information with other= s using this closed network.

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