From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29692 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2022 02:18:41 -0000 Received: from tb-ob1.topicbox.com (64.147.108.173) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2022 02:18:41 -0000 Received: from tb-mx0.topicbox.com (tb-mx0.nyi.icgroup.com [10.90.30.73]) by tb-ob1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4E436D20 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:18:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bounce.mM7727dcecedf37178853eb7de.r522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa@9fans.bounce.topicbox.com) Received: by tb-mx0.topicbox.com (Postfix, from userid 1132) id E5524147A5CB; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:18:39 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=9fans.net; h=to:subject :message-id:references:in-reply-to:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:list-help:list-id :list-post:list-subscribe:reply-to:list-unsubscribe; s=dkim-1; bh=d3fM/g0LJxs3+9/8aMPOfA0FnTfrbOPGaG6wlmlRpRo=; b=CsQwDsPuR9ok 76w9Ybj3AkIJewPZm++XVQxkdDI3pXvOfNNEs0enaesoqtzJCVNH+t/FeU7GPfVm kYE4Kg7UIs8KpBzXNkgGZVS8SJjgd8CaVVUre7rrP+7l6WfaXvxtEF2JhsO05Mq4 FasExd+wp5OODcFkVf5RBCMhkkU0YK4= To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] licence question Message-Id: <16435091140.eDE43962.999357@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> References: <16433324650.ff90B.935638@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16433713090.e62E5Cc03.507002@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16434613850.BC38c.59069@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16434652910.557dFF03.267022@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16434919380.1068C1061.56471@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16434950120.e286ed8c.18342@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <2993bf0b-ca39-49f6-8b32-d126279f859f@sirjofri.de> <16434994000.2BA5.73427@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:18:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=16435091141.CF5Ed8d1.999357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: ed6214b4-8172-11ec-b027-33da212d11b0 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UM2UwN2JmZGYyNjNhODNjOC1NNzcyN2RjZWNlZGYzNzE3ODg1M2Vi?= =?UTF-8?B?N2RlPg==?= From: "ibrahim via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M7727dcecedf37178853eb7de:1:2T_oSrhrI7AiO4uv7V_KvO5qvzfD_ku-HCXlmEbN-gs --16435091141.CF5Ed8d1.999357 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:18:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 2:45 AM, ron minnich wrote: > The late jmk and I labored over a period of many months in 2013 to get Plan 9 out under a BSD license. In the end, the copyright holder at that time required that we distribute it, via UC Berkeley, under the GPL. No choice. It was that or nothing. Those negotiations involved many people, and it almost did not happen at all. As far as I recall OpenBSD (Theo dR) was interested in BSD licensed compile= rs at that time and that didn't happen.=20 On Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 2:45 AM, ron minnich wrote: > The p9f process was not a relicensing, it was a transfer of ownership of the code. One condition of the transfer, was that the GPL was explicitly named as a license we should not use. All agreed that the MIT license was a good one. Thanks for this choice and your efforts during those negotiations. I only read about the expectations from BSD projects which were hoping to g= et an alternative Compiler for GCC. But that didn't happen at that time.=20 Thank you for clarifying things sorry if I made wrong assumptions. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T3e07bfdf263a83c8-M7727d= cecedf37178853eb7de Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --16435091141.CF5Ed8d1.999357 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:18:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 2:45 AM, ron mi= nnich wrote:
The late jmk and I labore= d over a period of many months in 2013 to get Plan 9 out under a BSD license. In the end, the copyright holder at that time required that we distribute it, via UC Berkeley, under the GPL. No choice. It was that or nothing. Those negotiations involved many people, and it almost did not happen at all.
As far as I recall OpenBSD (Theo dR) was interested in BSD l= icensed compilers at that time and that didn't happen.

On Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 2:45 AM, ron minnich wrote= :
The p9f process was not a relicensin= g, it was a transfer of ownership of the code. One condition of the transfer, was that the GPL was explicitly named as a license we should not use. All agreed that the MIT license was a good one.

Thanks = for this choice and your efforts during those negotiations.

I only read about the expectations from BSD projects whic= h were hoping to get an alternative Compiler for GCC. But that didn't h= appen at that time.

Thank you for clarify= ing things sorry if I made wrong assumptions.
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