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On Friday, 4 February 2022, at 4:30 PM, Kent R= . Spillner wrote:
In your experience d= o students appreciate being told what's best for them? ;)

My platform isn't one for teaching programi= ng its for teaching other subjects like math, electronics, statics and so o= n. It's neither my goal nor the intention of such a project to teach th= e students how to realize such a project.

The suggestion that I would include the code so that someone could learn f= rom it is unrealistic. If one of those students get interested in the way I= did the whole thing they find the links for the projects I used as a basem= ent.

Neither operating system development = nor programming in C for plan9 are subjects of my platform and so there is = no benefit for my students having the sources. If someone gets interested h= e/she can use the links for the used open source projects and become fans o= f whatever they like. Perhaps some will get motivated by using such a syste= m to invest the necessary time and effort. I don't hide what I used so = they can become enthusiasts if they want to. But this platform doesn't = need accompanied sources nor will the students have direct access to a shel= l or the tools everything is hidden behind a simple kiosk app which has no = other goal beside being the "envelop" for the real information me= ant to be taught.

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