* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
@ 2001-11-10 19:46 jmk
2001-11-10 20:32 ` Vincent van Gelderen
2001-11-10 22:02 ` Dan Cross
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From: jmk @ 2001-11-10 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sat Nov 10 14:27:21 EST 2001, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I'd be interested to know what problems there might be (or have been).
> Is the Tyan Thunder K7 (S2462) still he only dual-Athlon motherboard?
> I didn't have a happy time with Tyan products in the past.
I can partly answer my own questions. There is a cheaper Tyan motherboard,
Tiger MP (S2460), which doesn't have the on-board dual 3Com ethernet and
Adaptec SCSI controllers.
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-10 19:46 [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9 jmk
@ 2001-11-10 20:32 ` Vincent van Gelderen
2001-11-19 9:57 ` William S.
2001-11-10 22:02 ` Dan Cross
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From: Vincent van Gelderen @ 2001-11-10 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Saturday, November 10, 2001, 8:46:39 PM, you wrote:
> On Sat Nov 10 14:27:21 EST 2001, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
>> I'd be interested to know what problems there might be (or have been).
>> Is the Tyan Thunder K7 (S2462) still he only dual-Athlon motherboard?
>> I didn't have a happy time with Tyan products in the past.
> I can partly answer my own questions. There is a cheaper Tyan motherboard,
> Tiger MP (S2460), which doesn't have the on-board dual 3Com ethernet and
> Adaptec SCSI controllers.
I'm going to build a system around the Tiger MP for my private use
in the near future. This may take a while because not all the
parts I selected are readily available in the Netherlands.
I will keep this group informed about my efforts to plan9 it.
(Was that a verb?)
--
Best regards,
Vincent van Gelderen (v-i-n-z@zonnet.nl)
"Do not reciprocate unto others ..."
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-10 20:32 ` Vincent van Gelderen
@ 2001-11-19 9:57 ` William S.
2001-11-19 20:27 ` Vincent van Gelderen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: William S. @ 2001-11-19 9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I am also in the Netherlands. I would be interested in hearing back
what parts you settled on and where you got them from.
Bill
Amsterdam, NL
v-i-n-z@zonnet.nl (Vincent van Gelderen) wrote in message news:<168913022.20011110213214@zonnet.nl>...
> On Saturday, November 10, 2001, 8:46:39 PM, you wrote:
>
> I'm going to build a system around the Tiger MP for my private use
> in the near future. This may take a while because not all the
> parts I selected are readily available in the Netherlands.
> I will keep this group informed about my efforts to plan9 it.
> (Was that a verb?)
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-19 9:57 ` William S.
@ 2001-11-19 20:27 ` Vincent van Gelderen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vincent van Gelderen @ 2001-11-19 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Monday, November 19, 2001, 10:57:33 AM, William wrote:
WS> I am also in the Netherlands. I would be interested in hearing back
WS> what parts you settled on and where you got them from.
WS> Bill
WS> Amsterdam, NL
WS> v-i-n-z@zonnet.nl (Vincent van Gelderen) wrote in message news:<168913022.20011110213214@zonnet.nl>...
>> On Saturday, November 10, 2001, 8:46:39 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to build a system around the Tiger MP for my private use
>> in the near future. This may take a while because not all the
>> parts I selected are readily available in the Netherlands.
>> I will keep this group informed about my efforts to plan9 it.
>> (Was that a verb?)
After I buy the stuff, I'll put up a short write-up
on my webpage. I'll supply anyone interested with
the finer details like supplier, price, conditions,
what have you. Hope to complete all of this in the
next few weeks.
--
Best regards,
Vincent (v-i-n-z@zonnet.nl)
"Do not reciprocate unto others ..."
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-10 19:46 [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9 jmk
2001-11-10 20:32 ` Vincent van Gelderen
@ 2001-11-10 22:02 ` Dan Cross
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dan Cross @ 2001-11-10 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
In article <20011110194642.3C9D019A36@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write:
>I can partly answer my own questions. There is a cheaper Tyan motherboard,
>Tiger MP (S2460), which doesn't have the on-board dual 3Com ethernet and
>Adaptec SCSI controllers.
Oh cool; I'll check it out. Components are so cheap these days maybe
it's worth it to just buy one and try....
- Dan C.
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
@ 2001-11-10 19:26 jmk
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: jmk @ 2001-11-10 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sat Nov 10 13:40:21 EST 2001, cross@math.psu.edu wrote:
> Speaking of AMD chips.... Has anyone tried Plan 9 (both file server
> and terminal/CPU server kernels) with recent AMD chips with DDR RAM?
> Will the CPU server kernel work correctly with a dual processor AMD
> machine with DDR memory? It seems that there was some problems with
> this in other OS's until recently.
I'd be interested to know what problems there might be (or have been).
Is the Tyan Thunder K7 (S2462) still he only dual-Athlon motherboard?
I didn't have a happy time with Tyan products in the past.
--jim
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
@ 2001-11-10 12:50 forsyth
2001-11-10 18:39 ` Dan Cross
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From: forsyth @ 2001-11-10 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
>>I guess the cpu/auth server can get by being "headless":
>>not requiring a monitor, video card. No HDD is needed,
>>either.
i think the BIOS will usually demand a video card, but it needn't
be a particularly good one, and indeed, since it is usually run
in a basic CGA mode, it needn't be one that supports plan 9 graphics.
i've used ISA, PCI, and AGP cards depending on what i had in my
old-or-unsupported cards box.
it's the same for the file server.
>>Does it make a difference what cpu is used in each
>>of the above? Can you get by with a cheap cpu in the terminal
>>and file server and spend more on the cpu server? Is
>>that a good strategy?
yes, although i've found recently that it's hard to get new
components that aren't ludicrously fast for use in a terminal
(assuming you aren't doing a lot of real-time 3D graphics).
i previously used 350 to 500Mhz K6-2, but now the worst
i can get seems to be 850Mhz Duron. still, there is some scope
above that for a faster CPU server, and of course you can possibly
pick up some `slow' cpu discarded by a Windows or Linux upgrade.
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-10 12:50 forsyth
@ 2001-11-10 18:39 ` Dan Cross
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dan Cross @ 2001-11-10 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
In article <20011110124522.E030F19A85@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write:
>yes, although i've found recently that it's hard to get new
>components that aren't ludicrously fast for use in a terminal
>(assuming you aren't doing a lot of real-time 3D graphics).
>i previously used 350 to 500Mhz K6-2, but now the worst
>i can get seems to be 850Mhz Duron. still, there is some scope
>above that for a faster CPU server, and of course you can possibly
>pick up some `slow' cpu discarded by a Windows or Linux upgrade.
Really? I can't even find anything that slow; the slowest I can
come across is a 1GHz processor. Go figure.
Speaking of AMD chips.... Has anyone tried Plan 9 (both file server
and terminal/CPU server kernels) with recent AMD chips with DDR RAM?
Will the CPU server kernel work correctly with a dual processor AMD
machine with DDR memory? It seems that there was some problems with
this in other OS's until recently.
- Dan C.
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* [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
@ 2001-11-09 10:07 dReamh
2001-11-10 12:23 ` William S .
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: dReamh @ 2001-11-09 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
It's a simple Q :
What is the most cheap and common hardware that I can use to build
a pc and then install Plan 9 ?
Has anyone made a simple paper about installing Plan 9 ?
Thanx
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* Re: [9fans] Trying ti install Plan 9
2001-11-09 10:07 dReamh
@ 2001-11-10 12:23 ` William S .
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: William S . @ 2001-11-10 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On the same note. In trying to be minimal and keep the costs low.
Any recommendations on what to get for cpu's, motherboards, etc
for,
a. cpu/auth server
b. file server
c. terminal
I guess the cpu/auth server can get by being "headless":
not requiring a monitor, video card. No HDD is needed,
either.
The file server, same as above except requiring a HDD.
The terminal, just cpu, video card.
Does it make a difference what cpu is used in each
of the above? Can you get by with a cheap cpu in the terminal
and file server and spend more on the cpu server? Is
that a good strategy?
Bill
Amsterdam, NL
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:07:27AM +0000, dReamh wrote:
> It's a simple Q :
>
> What is the most cheap and common hardware that I can use to build
> a pc and then install Plan 9 ?
> Has anyone made a simple paper about installing Plan 9 ?
> Thanx
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