On Monday, 13 May 2024, at 3:35 PM, G B wrote:

Then you are still driving a Benz Patent-Motorwagen built in 1885, which is regarded as the first practical modern automobile instead of driving something newer like a Mercedes Benz S-Class or Lexus or Acura since these newer automobiles are not automobiles from your perspective?

Is this some kind of shift working from 9front defenders ? If so perhaps you could exchange state information before you change shifts. If you use 9front that's fine with me do as you please I prefer the final plan9 release and I don't have to justify my decision. And I don't want my arguments.