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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:45:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18b8d3d0c6c2a261b2c805e625081143@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <214e5e9f99e73a1094433938b5e1dc0c@pi.att>

On Mon Dec 23 17:10:13 EST 2013, sl@9front.org wrote:
> > There is value in a community.
>
> What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
> out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
> not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.

isn't this a false dichotomy?  rudeness doesn't preserve value.

> Conversely, UNIX diverged from its original design philosophy and was
> adopted by progressively larger communities, finally becoming something
> of a global standard, where it still enjoys great popularity.
>
> What remains of UNIX is sometimes difficult to recognize.

it's easy to point out past mistakes.  do you think these were obvious
at the time they were made?

the relevance for me is i don't want to help repeat these mistakes.
the ucb and system iii, and system v distributions intended to make
the labs' distributions more useful.  it's easy now to point out where
mistakes were made.  how do we guard against making the
same ones ourselves?  trying to guide 9atom along, i worry a lot
about this.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-23 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-23  2:37 Blake McBride
2013-12-23  5:19 ` Sergey Zhilkin
2013-12-23  6:15   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 13:46       ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 13:55         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 14:36   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:10   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:32     ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-23 17:13       ` sl
2013-12-23 18:00       ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:03         ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:28           ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 20:03             ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 20:18               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:23               ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-12-23 20:48                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 21:20                   ` Steve Simon
2013-12-23 20:51               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 21:45                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 22:00                   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 22:07                   ` sl
2013-12-23 22:45                     ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2013-12-23 23:47                       ` sl
2013-12-23 23:54                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24 12:06                         ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-24 12:24                           ` lucio
2013-12-24 17:47                             ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-25  5:30                               ` lucio
2013-12-25  5:58                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2013-12-24  0:16                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24  0:57                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-12-24  2:49                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-24  3:03                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-12-23 19:18           ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 19:30             ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 19:37               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:29                 ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 15:42     ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23  9:38 ` Richard Miller

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