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Think about what you want to do with those files on your server. Do you hav= e an e-reader? A music player? A proper image viewer? Did you want to strea= m these to other devices? How do you want to do that as most devices don't = support 9p? > most importantly, i want to be able to access the grid remotely: That's the more challenging part. I recommend starting with a few servers (= auth, fs, cpu, maybe even all in one machine) in the cloud, plus one local = cpu server with a cache filesystem (cfs) for better latency. I have a simil= ar setup at home, but currently my local server has a full file server, not= only a cache. > from my laptop in class for example (same network) and maybe down the lin= e from anywhere, over internet. You have to check if your internet allows accessing remote services like th= at. Some shared providers like universities block certain protocols, ports = and IP addresses. Maybe first test with 9p.zone or sdf bootcamp. > there are a number of things in the way of that, the first being my dorm = room does not have an ethernet outlet. i think mine is the only one on my f= loor that doesn=E2=80=99t. second, my building loses power frequently, whic= h is not ideal for hosting servers; power aside, it would still lose intern= et connection. the third problem is less adverse, but the network requires = devices to be authenticated to get online. Have your servers in the cloud. You're not a data center. VPS can be actual= ly quite cheap, I pay 2.42 euro per month per machine. > does anyone see a favorable way to set up a plan 9 grid, either on campus= or an alternative? the biggest hurdle is definitely getting the grid on th= e university network where it can be connected to locally, or getting it ou= t of the network and online. The probably only way to get something like you really want is to talk to y= our university and maybe you can do a long term project with a small team o= f other interested students (plus a prof). Depending on the University you = might have luck, but the result is less ... personal. But you could also ad= d your own personal fileserver to that grid easier. > and i=E2=80=99m aware of 9gridchan 9gridchan is mostly dead, and probably even more since a few months. Long l= ive 9gridchan, in 9p.zone. Both are actually targeted towards users, not ou= r beginners. Note that on 9p.zone there's an extra service with a public auth service ev= erybody can use for free. You could hook up your own fileserver to use this= auth and control who has access to it. For shared projects on a shared sys= tem you can use the existing eu grid at 9p.zone (eu.9p.zone). 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