* rumours of plan 9 going commercial
@ 1994-02-09 0:38 Vijay
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From: Vijay @ 1994-02-09 0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
> However, I think Rob Pike has said that they are trying
> to get Plan 9 publicly released. I assume he means as
> free software along the lines of awk or sam. I believe
> this is the only way Plan 9 will ever have a chance to see
> the widespread use it deserves, and so I hope very much
> that this happens.
Oh god, I think the earth moved for me.
I am drumming up support for plan 9 here, but when I say it
doesn't run emacs, people lose all interest and the weird thing
is that after about 2 weeks of running sam, I would hate to go
back to emacs, and I am a die hard emacs/vi fan. But most people
don't seem to be willing to take the time to learn sam properly.
People I showed sam to... oh whats the point.
The compatibility list seems to be working, I got some mail about
it, so people, if you have PC's running plan 9, mail me your
configuration/hardware specs and get them incorporated into the
list.
vijay
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* rumours of plan 9 going commercial
@ 1994-02-09 3:21 Dave
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From: Dave @ 1994-02-09 3:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:38:02 -0500
From: Vijay Gill <vijay@gl.umbc.edu>
> However, I think Rob Pike has said that they are trying
> to get Plan 9 publicly released. I assume he means as
> free software along the lines of awk or sam. I believe
> this is the only way Plan 9 will ever have a chance to see
> the widespread use it deserves, and so I hope very much
> that this happens.
Oh god, I think the earth moved for me.
I like the Plan 9 design *A*LOT*. I have read most of the
documentation (about a year ago).
I am currently running Linux on my laptop, because I refuse to run an
operating system for which I don't have source. As far as I'm
concerned, I do not have source for Plan 9, because though the
University may have source, I refuse to look at source that may some
day taint me and any operating system code I may produce (c.f. the USL
v.s BSDI lawsuit). If the plan 9 source was covered by a copyright
like NJ/SML (also from AT&T), I would almost certainly switch (despite
my editor comments below).
I am drumming up support for plan 9 here, but when I say it
doesn't run emacs, people lose all interest and the weird thing
is that after about 2 weeks of running sam, I would hate to go
I use emacs for 3 reasons: customizability, availability on any
platform on which I would consider working, and a shell interface
(under which I run the Unix rc) that I can use *from*the*keyboard* (I
*hate* mice). I played with the Unix sam for a while, but wasn't too
impressed (the native plan 9 version is probably much nicer). acme
sounds interesting... if there was a Unix version (for the machines
where I can't change the OS) I'd be willing to give it a serious shot.
../Dave
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* rumours of plan 9 going commercial
@ 1994-02-09 1:10 Scott
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From: Scott @ 1994-02-09 1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
| ...the weird thing is that after about 2 weeks of running sam, I would
| hate to go back to emacs, and I am a die hard emacs/vi fan.
Just wait 'til you see acme.
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* rumours of plan 9 going commercial
@ 1994-02-08 22:26 Mike
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From: Mike @ 1994-02-08 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
For some reason various people on this list have been
floating rumours about plan 9 going commercial. I think
this is ludicrous. At best, wishful thinking; at worst,
confusing to others on the list.
I don't think Plan 9 has any real chance of going commercial.
First of all, the entrenched momentum of the Unix/X11 and
DOS/Windows markets is too great. I am essentially the
only person here who uses Plan 9; I have tried to find
other recruits, but between a shortage of hardware and the
"what do you mean it doesn't have EMACS?" syndrome, it is
an uphill battle.
Secondly, remember AT&T sold USL to Novell. I think this
makes it clear that AT&T doesn't really want to be in the
business of selling operating systems.
So basically, forget it.
However, I think Rob Pike has said that they are trying
to get Plan 9 publicly released. I assume he means as
free software along the lines of awk or sam. I believe
this is the only way Plan 9 will ever have a chance to see
the widespread use it deserves, and so I hope very much
that this happens.
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