From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:31:59 -0400 From: Charles M. Hannum mycroft@ai.mit.edu Subject: plan 9 and other operating systems Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0b6e982c-eac8-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Message-ID: <19950407213159.ft2mzVxo3Q35KHytElHWHpXuTvpZ57P5y4b46rFI1-k@z> I have one serious comment. Linux is a mess, but A) it works, and B) it is totally unencumbered, [...] I'm not going to holler about the implementation of (and the number of things that *don't* work in) Linux here. I'll save that for another day. However, I feel compelled to bash on your point B a bit. Linux is in fact quite encumbered. The GPL forces a distributor to either always give you source with any binaries, or to (essentially) become a clearing house for very cheap copies of the source for anyone requesting them. If you don't believe that, go read the license. This can be a big hassle for some people, and it's clear that some (of not most) Linux distributors just violate the GPL and don't worry about it. This is not to say that it's more encumbered than, say, Plan 9, which, from what I've heard, you can't give away at all. Would we find ourselves in the same situation as Berkeley -- without the extensive legal staff of the UC system? I'm not sure that's a fair comment. I don't speak for Bell Labs, obviously, but it's my impression that at least some people there were very much *not* in favor of the law suit. USL sort of spun off and started doing its own thing, and it's not clear that the Labs had any control over it by that point.