From: serge@euler.Berkeley.EDU serge@euler.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: remote device access
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:09:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <19950429060932.-8OnotabL1H76IQag42uag1T1U52R--SXL22yS4JLd8@z> (raw)
(``I say we hang this srege heretic in effigy!''
``To heck with it! Let's hang him right here!''
:-)
>the notation was invented as an expedient way to address drivers before
>the name space was established, a function it serves well.
But don't you need a file system / name space before you can run, e.g.
% cat /lib/namespac
# root
mount -a #s/boot /
...
i.e. where do (/bin/)mount and /lib/namespac come from to begin with?
(For that matter, where does #s come from? :-)
>i prefer the notation to be distinct. when what's going on is
>fundamentally nasty, it is polite to say so; hence #c.
My concern is that it pretends to be in file system space, while it
really isn't (you can't ls/cp/rm/etc. it). At least with Unix'
major/minor device numbers, even though they are ``magic'', they're not
intrusive/interfering with naming. E.g. in Plan9, I can't have a file
called #c (there goes emacs ... hm ... :-). This is pretty much
like DOS' con[:] et al, which I think we can all agree isn't elegant.
:-)
I believe VSTa has a /namer file system, so that, e.g. you can find out
the name of the root file system via
cat /namer/fs/root
Perhaps if some ``magic'' (ugh) at boot time made all the drivers
accessible in /drivers in a similar way (akin to the way that ``/''
is mounted)?
>if one were to attach all drivers to the name space automatically [...]
>one would go against the grain of plan 9, where what is in the name
>space is what is needed rather than all that's available. besides,
>this latter form implies an attach has been done, a semantically heavy
>operation best left until the driver is really needed.
Actually, I wasn't suggesting attaching/binding all the drivers, merely
making them visible via the normal file system name space / operations.
Or removing them from the name space entirely. :-)
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