From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:09:55 -0400 From: Vadim Antonov avg@postman.ncube.com Subject: passwords in the clear Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1984b996-eac8-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Message-ID: <19950821040955.2LI4Be4N8qInYvXu8SflL6MXjV1a3DDrICZ7rV8RinE@z> "Filtering bridge" is the same as "switching hub". Terminology :) ATM is short for "Another Terrible Mistake" :) --vadim Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:23:10 -0400 From: "Paul D. Robertson" On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Vadim Antonov wrote: [snip] > Been there, done that. The only way to defeat snoopers on > Ethernet is to encrypt all data or to use filtering bridges, > or to use good application-level gateway and not bother with > protection from insiders (which you never can do anyway... as > an insider can always stick a floppy in your machine and > voila! all data is his). > You forgot switching hubs, which negate the whole sniffing/snooping/spoofing problem (If someone substitues a host, you've got more problems than network security will handle). If for no other reason, this is why some of us just can't wait for ATM all over the friggin place :) Paul. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions proberts@clark.net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." PSB#9280