From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 02:59:52 -0400
From: Vadim Antonov avg@postman.ncube.com
Subject: Set User (aka su)
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Vadim Antonov writes:
 > often what goes for minimalism is simply shifting complexity from
 > one place to another, or having a user to deal with inconvinient
 > interfaces (like, i can't really use Plan9 system as my workstation
 > exactly because i can't telnet from it and do anything useful
 > because it lacks emulation of a reasonably simple alphanumeric
 > terminal, including (horror!) direct positioning).

>hp
>telnet

hp takes 100+ Kb to implement something which could be
done in fifty bytes of code in 81/2, scrolls awfully slowly
and does not handle resizing properly.

I.e. not implementing a display instead of a typewriter in
81/2 simply moved the complexity to other place (hp) and
made user interface incoherent (can't call sam in the same
window as telnet!)

If you call *that* minimalism i'm the Pope.

--vadim