From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 17:01:04 -0400
From: Steve Kotsopoulos steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Subject: Set User (aka su)
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avg@postman.ncube.com (Vadim Antonov) wrote:

> >Vadim, it's not Unix.  It's not supposed to be.
> >
> >-rob
> 
> It is still not an excuse for not providing elementary
> conviniences.  My next pet peeve is that telnet from Plan9
> does not even support carriage returns (although Plan9 telnetd
> does insert them).
> 
> The minimalism itself is ok.  Heck, i myself did research on
> mimimalist systems (the first report in Russian on the regular
> O.S. architecture was presented in 88).  My current home project
> is called "Trivial Routing Architecture Proposal".  However, too
> often what goes for minimalism is simply shifting complexity from
> one place to another, or having a user to deal with inconvinient
> interfaces (like, i can't really use Plan9 system as my workstation
> exactly because i can't telnet from it and do anything useful
> because it lacks emulation of a reasonably simple alphanumeric
> terminal, including (horror!) direct positioning).

May I suggest the following:

Try plan9.

If you like the plan9 user interface (rc, sam, 8 1/2),
install rc, sam and 9term on your Unix systems.
Enjoy life.

If you don't like the user interface,
install *nix over-top your plan9 partition.
Go back to enjoying life.