From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 17:14:24 -0400
From: Steve Hemminger sch@postman.ncube.com
Subject: Set User (aka su)
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Vadim Antonov writes:
 > often what goes for minimalism is simply shifting complexity from
 > one place to another, or having a user to deal with inconvinient
 > interfaces (like, i can't really use Plan9 system as my workstation
 > exactly because i can't telnet from it and do anything useful
 > because it lacks emulation of a reasonably simple alphanumeric
 > terminal, including (horror!) direct positioning).

hp
telnet

 > My opinios is that *human interface* must be minimalistic and
 > the rest of the system should be minimal as possible while
 > supporting the functionality.  Functionality comes first.
 > Any missing piece in the basic system spawns ugly (and different)
 > workarounds.  Unix is the best example of it, what was in the
 > v7 remained the "common denominator" and the basis for portability,
 > the missing pieces were added in a multitude of different and
 > often architecturally insane ways.

agreed.