From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 10:46:37 -0400
From: Gary Capell gary@staff.cs.su.oz.au
Subject: Set User (aka su)
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> >As a side note... has anyone on the Plan 9 list ever used the
> >Macintosh MPW shell?  It is a Unix-like shell combined with a
> >programmer's text editor. You could select any text at any location in
> >any editing window, hit Enter, and send it off as a command.  Or
> >conversely edit any command with the full power of the text editor.
> >This gave you many of the features of the 8 1/2 terminal and Acme...
> 
> Yes, I use it all the time.  I've never understood why this style didn't
> migrate to Unix/Emacs/etc. systems...seems like there's always some
> complicated mechanism of copying things to the input line in the shell
> window or some such thing, instead of just executing the stuff in place.
> Smalltalk-80 had this years ago, of course.

Seems like a good excuse to put in a plug for Wily.  I've written
(jointly with Bill Trost) a lot of an Acme workalike for Unix/X.  It's
not ready for general release, but hackers can grab a copy to
play with now.

Please mail me: bugs, bug fixes, portability fixes, suggestions, if
you want to be added to a mail list.

Canned blurb follows:

What is Wily?

Wily is an program for Unix/X/C which attempts to provide
the functionality of Acme (http://plan9.att.com/plan9/doc/acme.html),
which is built on Plan9/Alef.  Acme/Wily provide an integrated
programming/editing environment which makes good use of a
3-button mouse, with several interesting features.

What state is it in?

Certainly far from plug'n'play.  A few people here (Basser) are
using it pretty heavily already, but there's still quite a lot of
work remaining.  Grab it if you want to have a look/play, but expect
(and please mail me) bugs.  Please mail me portability fixes (but
not problems).  It's being jointly written on a Solaris and a
FreeBSD machine.

Documentation?

Check out http://www.cs.su.oz.au/~gary/hobby/wily/auug.html

Where do you get it?

ftp://www.cs.su.oz.au/gary/wily.tgz	(tar'ed, gzip'ed file)