From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Sat,  9 Sep 1995 16:43:29 -0400
From: presotto@plan9.att.com presotto@plan9.att.com
Subject: gnot1.link.bull.se online
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>I'm now using ftpfs to edit this file on the production 
>server, a Bull DPX/20 690 running AIX. I'm about to port
>u9fs to AIX, if it hasn't been done allready, but ftpfs works
>fine for now, almost like ange-ftp in Emacs, except for one
>thing --- I don't seem to be able to find dot-files, starting
>with a '.'.

The FTP command that goes to the Unix system is "LIST".  The Unix ftp
server is probably just doing an 'ls' to get the listing and because
there's no '-a' flag, it hides the files starting with '.'.  That's
a Unixism I've never liked much.  If it bugs you, you could change your
ftpfs to do an 'LIST -a'.  I'ld rather someone fixed Unix but what the
heck.

>I also find that the editing capabilities of the windows in
>8 1/2 doesn't work over telnet connections. Strange things
>happen; sometimes I don't seem to get out of the edit mode,
>as invoked by pressing ESC. Sometimes, I can't get into
>edit mode at all, the ESC being swalloved by telnet.

Telnet sticks the window into raw mode and grabs any characters you
type, ESC included, and sends them over the network connection
as long as the cursor is at the Unix point, i.e., the last selectable
spot in the window.  If you  move the cursor somewhere else (by clicking
button 1), you can get into and out of hold mode.

>One problem with ftpfs is that its mount point is only known
>to the process that forked and execed the ftpfs command and
>its children. I don't know how to change that, but I guess
>I have to dabble some in mount and bind.

No dabbling will fix that.  You could hack ftpfs to stick itself
into /srv and then mount that somewhere else.  It's easy enough to
do, just look at the 's' option in /sys/src/cmd/ramfs.c