Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[Dave]

what plan 9 has evolved into.

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What is Brazil?

-Dave

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[John]

In comp.os.plan9 you wrote:
> what plan 9 has evolved into.
>
>> What is Brazil?


Would you care to elaborate some about that?

I'm interested in picking up plan9 and tinkering with it
(what I'd really like to do is see about porting Openstep
to it, along with the Nextstep user interface.. but that would
require an objective c compiler, and I haven't been able
to find any info about a gcc compiler for plan 9..).. but
if plan9 is already an obsolete thing, and it is/was replaced
by Brazil, I'd rather look there.

If it's not public yet, is there any thoughts about when it
might become public?

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[Julian]

Three problems. 

1--On both Apr 7 and Apr 8 I tryed to get to <http://plan9.att.com/plan9/>
using a web browser, and although I could visit other sites, lynx reported
errors with the above URL.  Clearly, as both this respondent and the
previous said they got through, the problem isn't at (or near) the URL
above. 

2--On both Apr 7 and Apr 8 I tryed to visit <ftp://plan9.att.com/plan9/>
(with a web browser), and to 'open plan9.att.com' (with a program
specializing (specialising?) in ftp) Clearly, yada yada sis boom ba, as
above. 

3--The news reader here at SEFLIN's free net insisted that the reply,
which I would have preferred to send only to the respondent quoted, be
sent to the 'list' <9fans@cse.psu.edu>.  But as I wanted to thank the
quoted author for his or her response, I said (to myself (quite silently
(sub-vocally (how can I add (to this article) even more
parenthetical expressions?) in fact))), what the heck. 

In article <96Apr9.085111edt.78364@colossus.cse.psu.edu> you wrote:

: Julian B Hilaire <dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us!d025826c> asks:

: >Has anyone out there actually managed to connect to either
: ><http://plan9.att.com/plan9/> or <ftp://plan9.att.com/plan9/> on or after
: >April 7th? 

: I tried getting http://plan9.att.com/plan9/, and running ftp
: to plan9.att.com from my courtesy account at Drew University &
: both worked fine.  What's the problem?

: Note that with the AT&T corporate split-up our canonical
: site-name has changed to plan9.bell-labs.com, and that
: plan9.att.com might stop working later this year.

I will try <http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9> and 
<http://plan9.bell-labs.com/>, at some later date.

Thank you for the new name.

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[td]

Julian B Hilaire <dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us!d025826c> asks:
>Has anyone out there actually managed to connect to either
><http://plan9.att.com/plan9/> or <ftp://plan9.att.com/plan9/> on or after
>April 7th? 

I tried getting http://plan9.att.com/plan9/, and running ftp
to plan9.att.com from my courtesy account at Drew University &
both worked fine.  What's the problem?

Note that with the AT&T corporate split-up our canonical
site-name has changed to plan9.bell-labs.com, and that
plan9.att.com might stop working later this year.

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[dhog]

>I have just finished re-reading the FAQ for plan 9 and the messages on
>SEFLIN's new server and I have a couple of questions: 
>
>What is Brazil? 

A Terry Gilliam movie.  See it, it's very good.

>Has anyone out there actually managed to connect to either
><http://plan9.att.com/plan9/> or <ftp://plan9.att.com/plan9/> on or after
>April 7th? 

Yes, I successfully used both within the last few hours.

>---
>I have learned silence from the talkative, tolerance from the intolerant,
>and kindness from the unkind, yet, I'm ungrateful to those teachers. 
>  --  Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931)

I have learned nettiquette from the clueless...  [but it doesn't show :-) ]

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[Julian]

I have just finished re-reading the FAQ for plan 9 and the messages on
SEFLIN's new server and I have a couple of questions: 

What is Brazil? 

Has anyone out there actually managed to connect to either
<http://plan9.att.com/plan9/> or <ftp://plan9.att.com/plan9/> on or after
April 7th? 

In article <96Apr8.150502edt.79037@colossus.cse.psu.edu> you wrote:

: what plan 9 has evolved into. [sic]

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[deletia]

: What is Brazil?

: -Dave
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I have learned silence from the talkative, tolerance from the intolerant,
and kindness from the unkind, yet, I'm ungrateful to those teachers. 
  --  Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931)
---
Julian B. Hilaire
d025826c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
---

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[de5]

What is Brazil?

-Dave

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[jim]

In porting Brazil to a dual Pentium system I basically threw away all the PC
device drivers and started from scratch as I was unsure how many of them were
MP-safe (I know I wrote some which weren't). I've been writing drivers on an
as-needed basis and currently the only drivers are for Buslogic SCSI controllers,
the AMD79C970 ethernet controller, the 3COM EtherLinkIII and Fast Etherlink
controllers and the UARTs; these drivers bear little resemblance to those distributed.
Note there is no VGA (or mouse) driver, not necessary for a CPU server.
Much of the initialisation, memory management and interrupt handling code was
completely rewritten too, some of it had to be but some of it just needed going
over again, it had been a long time.

The code could be back-ported to Plan 9 but there's no incentive here to do so.
However, I intend to fix-up the fileserver kernel sometime to incorporate all the
fixes found since the distribution was cut and that may be a good candidate for
back-porting the MP code to.

Regarding hardware, I've used an ASUS PCI/E-P54NP4D, a Gigabyte GA-586ID and a Tyan
Tempest S1462 (there are details on these boards in the FAQ). If you can wait there
will be a new generation of boards shipping in the next few weeks based on the
Triton-II chipset which promises much better memory and I/O bandwidth than those
above which are all based on the older but more stable Neptune chipset. The older
boards are probably listed above in order of decreasing preference.

--jim

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Hi,

  A while ago I asked a question about the availablility of Plan 9 for
dual Pentium system and I got a reply saying that a dual Pentium has
been done for Brazil but there was no plan for such port of Plan
9. I'd like to know if this is still true. I am planning on getting a
new machine to set up a CPU server and if Plan 9 is available for dual
Pentium machine, I'd like to know which motherboard it supports.

Thanks.

-- 
Ta-Wei Li

Plan 9 for dual Pentium machine...

[Ta-Wei]

Hi,

  A while ago I asked a question about the availablility of Plan 9 for
dual Pentium system and I got a reply saying that a dual Pentium has
been done for Brazil but there was no plan for such port of Plan
9. I'd like to know if this is still true. I am planning on getting a
new machine to set up a CPU server and if Plan 9 is available for dual
Pentium machine, I'd like to know which motherboard it supports.

Thanks.

-- 
Ta-Wei Li