From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:53:37 +0000 From: Roman Czyborra czyborra@cs.tu-berlin.de Subject: [9fans] unicoded troff? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a6dd3c8-eac8-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-ID: <19980626185337.L4I1QPxWLiPDicUDlFElAjE5DktOXRs45_xoXP8cOhU@z> In Rob Pike's and Ken Thompson's 1993 Usenix paper "Hello World or Καλημέρα κόσμε or こんにちは 世界" which can be seen at http://pub.cs.tu-berlin.de/doc/unicode/09utf.ps.Z and many other places as Postscript document and also in an ISO-8859-1 HTML version at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/doc/utf.html [isn't the PostScript version anywhere on plan9.bell-labs.com?] I read that: Brian Kernighan suffered cheerfully with several inadequate implementations and converted troff to UTF. That sounds very interesting because that would turn troff into a typesetter that can typeset Unicode text. And indeed, if I look at the Postscript source I get to see that the paper itself was formatted with troff, using the Symbol font for the Greek letters and bitmaps for Japanese. Hence I wonder: Is there a running Plan9 host to which I may telnet and try it out? Or can I install Plan 9 on a PC whose harddisk is almost filled with a big Linux and a small DOS partition? What would that cost me in time, money and disk space? I did not see these questions answered in the FAQ http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/faq.html Are the troff sources available and has anybody ported the Plan9 troff to Unix yet? groff, the GNU troff which does a great job at typesetting ISO-8859-1 texts, has unfortunately been abandoned by James Clark and seems too hard to expand to more of the Unicode character repertoire. Will I ever get to see Unix manual pages with mathematical symbols and all the authors' names spelled correctly instead of in ASCII approximations? Gratefully, Roman http://czyborra.com/