From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:29:21 -0400 From: geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com Subject: [9fans] using mouse (was: ... using sam) Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7cca740a-eac8-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Message-ID: <19980824002921.HeHLxJsAwwX1IAyFtRZMrdfPS0MfFqD61-AL2otq1C0@z> If you're using a `battleship' pc keyboard or a laptop built-in mouse (or worse, trackball or `glide pad', the instant cause of carpal-tunnel syndrome), I can see why you're unhappy. In my department, we've been trying various small keyboards and mice, with and without wires. We plug real mice into laptops. keyboard(6) does say Caps Lock acts as an additional control key. but some people miss that; it means that the control key is in the same place on all keyboards: to the left of the `a' key. We used to buy the Lexmark `model m4' wired keyboards, which are small and don't have much unused surface area. ~ ` is above ESC. Their main drawbacks are that they are somewhat loud and have been discontinued by Lexmark, though you could ask unicomp@lex.infi.net if they have any left (we bought 20 of their last 50). We looked for successors to the Lexmark and tried the Behavioural Technologies BTC-5100 wired keyboard. It is smaller still but key placement is just too unorthodox for most of the people who tried it. I don't have one in front of me, so I can't describe the layout, but I do recall swearing at it when I used it. Trying to find the F1, F2 or DEL key at boot time within a few seconds to get you into the bios setup screen can be a real challenge. We recently ordered wired and wireless keyboards from Sejin Electron (www.sejin.com). Apparently the standard footprint of wireless keyboards is quite small; I don't understand why keyboard makers think that people would want a keyboard the size of a piano's just because it has a wire running all the way to your PS2 keyboard port. Sejin's wired and wireless keyboards all seem to be pretty small; we ordered the spr-8630 wired keyboard at $42.00 and the spr-8695w wireless keyboard at $90.00. These two keyboards are similar, with or without wire; the wireless ones are black and the wired are white. (Sejin does make battleship wired keyboards; beware.) Drawbacks include too-small ESC, tab and control or caps-lock keys; and unusual placement of | \ ` ~ keys (it's a shame that ANSI didn't standardise ASCII keyboard layout before PCs existed). I only swear at it when I reach for ` and hit ESC instead, thus taking me out of hold mode. We are currently trying the PFU Happy Hacking wired keyboards (see www.pfuca.com). They are expensive, but their virtues include: no caps lock key; extreme small size: only 5 rows of keys with no keys right of Return, for a total of 60 keys; and cables to connect to PS2, Mac or Sun keyboard ports. | \ ~ ` are in the upper right corner, so I tend to hit ESC by mistake on this one too. There is an `Fn' shift key that overloads various keys. Fn and a digit generates the key code for that function key (e.g. `Fn 3' acts like an F3 key). `Fn /' generates the down-arrow key code, and that's a minor nuisance when you want to scroll. DEL and BS (backspace) are on the same key by default; not having unshifted Delete and Backspace keys is the biggest nuisance we've found yet. Initially, the Delete key normally generates DEL and with the Fn shift key generates a BS. `Fn `' also generates DEL. There is one switch, it selects one of four modes; two of them make the Delete key always generate a BS, and that may be preferable. We like the rest of the keyboard enough that we've been coping by typing control-H for BS (an old habit some of us developed because the Backspace key has moved all over the keyboard over the years). Logitech used to make the best 3-button mice, wired and wireless, that I have used since DePraz (the red 5620 mice). Their original wireless mice didn't suffer from `cord drag' but seemed a little less precise than their wired mice, which is particularly noticeable in acme. Since Scott Adams rewrote their mission statement, they seem to have gone bonkers (or are now designing mice for non-humans). They now make mice with narrow vestigial middle buttons, mice with wheels embedded in the buttons, mice with four buttons, mice with buttons on the *side*, mice with the buttons in the wrong order (2 1 3 instead of 1 2 3, or middle left right instead of left middle right), and mice that combine these wretched misfeatures. The number of the buttons shall be three: no more, no less. Judging from their web site, they also now churn their product line like the rest of the PC hardware vendors. When I last looked a few weeks ago (and this may be completely different now), they had no usable wireless mice. Their new wireless mice combine wrong order, side button and sometimes wheel within vestigial middle button. They do usually have one usable wired mouse in their line up, but it keeps changing model name and number and colour. The Mouseman for Notebook is fine but it needs a PS2 extender cable. The `First Mouse' looks like their original mice, but under another name. Beware of the so-called `Mountain Bike Mouse' which has a fourth button on the side that gets in the way and acts like a middle button; I think it has a wheel embedded in the fourth button too. It's easy to spot due to the wide purple stripes and nubs on the side (hence the nickname). If Logitech don't shape up, we may have to find another mouse vendor, though there aren't many contenders. It might be wise to stock up on decent mice if you can still find them.