Some optimistics thoughts about our chances to use Brazil one day: The Plan 9 user community is small; it lacks coordination. So, things are moving in Plan 9, but slowly, and in a non-coordinated way that requires a not small energy to keep your own system in sync with what is done at many sites by a dozen of persons. Conclusion: you won't get very far with Plan 9, it's too hard for a newby to follow two or three years of 9fans archive to (for example) choose a video card or compile ssh. When someone on the mailing list wrote that the Inferno source license cost 1M$, my opinion was that inferno was not something for me. What's more, I was convinced that the (supposed) marketing approach of Lucent (make it something expensive, used to solve hard problems; don't try to spread it), implied that Brazil would never get out of the Bell Labs. I stopped to promote Plan 9 around me, only using it for myself and marginally using it to convince the students that some things they thought difficult are actually badly formulated problems. I was reinforced in the opinion that we would never use Brazil by what happens on the 9fans mailing list: every six month, someone asks about the probability of seing Brazil, and doesn't get an answer (at least, no answer on the mailing list). My mind changed this summer, when I discovered Lucent's Inferno university partnership program. I hope that it is a sign that someone at Lucent realized that Inferno would be more strong on the marketing side if it disposed of a strong user community. If I am right, regarding the preceding point, I think we can have some hope to use Brazil. Someday, someone will realize that distributing Brazil will only boost Inferno sales. The OS market being what it is (i.e. microsoft vs free unixes), it won't be too expensive for me.