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40 characters, Dave. The radix of radix 50 is octal.
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On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 01:05:36PM -0500, presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I used to be DEC field service for 10's and 20's.
Wow, do you throw rocks at kids who come to your house
on Halloween?
- Dan C.
:-) (I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. I'll knock
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In article <1E485299309FD211A2100090271E27A4142D04@symnt3.Cadence.COM> you write:
>Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars.
They had any size chars you wanted from 1 to 36, but some char sizes
produced a lot of internal fragmentation. The most efficient sizes were
1 (36/word),
2 (18/word),
3 (12/word),
4 ( 9/word),
5 ( 7/word + 1 bit),
6 ( 6/word),
7 ( 5/word + 1 bit),
8 ( 4/word + 4 bits),
12 ( 3/word), and
18 ( 2/word),
Nine-bit characters were an especially wasteful size, as you could
only get three per word. Might as well use 12-bit chars.
The "7-bit char plus 1 bit to indicate a line number" was probably the
most common, although the 6BIT representation was used a lot in the
systems code...
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>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars. We might never have needed
Unicode.
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Not nearly agressive enough. Radix 50 is the only way
to go for characters. Forget all this upper/lower case goo
not to mention unicode. 50 characters are enough for real
programmers.
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In article <1E485299309FD211A2100090271E27A4142D04@symnt3.Cadence.COM> you write:
>Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars.
They had any size chars you wanted from 1 to 36, but some char sizes
produced a lot of internal fragmentation. The most efficient sizes were
1 (36/word),
2 (18/word),
3 (12/word),
4 ( 9/word),
5 ( 7/word + 1 bit),
6 ( 6/word),
7 ( 5/word + 1 bit),
8 ( 4/word + 4 bits),
12 ( 3/word), and
18 ( 2/word),
Nine-bit characters were an especially wasteful size, as you could
only get three per word. Might as well use 12-bit chars.
The "7-bit char plus 1 bit to indicate a line number" was probably the
most common, although the 6BIT representation was used a lot in the
systems code...
Stu Friedberg (stuartf@sequent.com)
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In article <199901141623.LAA26240@cse.psu.edu> you write:
>I'ld rather go to long long though its more painful. That way,
>as dmr points out, dates before the epoch are still representable
>as negative numbers. Going to ulong makes a good chunk of my
>life unrepresentable. Of course, I'll be dead by 2038 and I don't
>have any kids so what do I care...
What, you're that old?
>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
- Dan C.
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I used to be DEC field service for 10's and 20's.
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On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 01:05:36PM -0500, presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I used to be DEC field service for 10's and 20's.
Wow, do you throw rocks at kids who come to your house
on Halloween?
- Dan C.
:-) (I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. I'll knock
out the off-topic posts now...)
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>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars. We might never have needed
Unicode.
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In article <199901141623.LAA26240@cse.psu.edu> you write:
>I'ld rather go to long long though its more painful. That way,
>as dmr points out, dates before the epoch are still representable
>as negative numbers. Going to ulong makes a good chunk of my
>life unrepresentable. Of course, I'll be dead by 2038 and I don't
>have any kids so what do I care...
What, you're that old?
>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
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In article <1E485299309FD211A2100090271E27A4142D04@symnt3.Cadence.COM> you write:
>Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars.
They had any size chars you wanted from 1 to 36, but some char sizes
produced a lot of internal fragmentation. The most efficient sizes were
1 (36/word),
2 (18/word),
3 (12/word),
4 ( 9/word),
5 ( 7/word + 1 bit),
6 ( 6/word),
7 ( 5/word + 1 bit),
8 ( 4/word + 4 bits),
12 ( 3/word), and
18 ( 2/word),
Nine-bit characters were an especially wasteful size, as you could
only get three per word. Might as well use 12-bit chars.
The "7-bit char plus 1 bit to indicate a line number" was probably the
most common, although the 6BIT representation was used a lot in the
systems code...
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Not nearly agressive enough. Radix 50 is the only way
to go for characters. Forget all this upper/lower case goo
not to mention unicode. 50 characters are enough for real
programmers.
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In article <1E485299309FD211A2100090271E27A4142D04@symnt3.Cadence.COM> you write:
>Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars.
They had any size chars you wanted from 1 to 36, but some char sizes
produced a lot of internal fragmentation. The most efficient sizes were
1 (36/word),
2 (18/word),
3 (12/word),
4 ( 9/word),
5 ( 7/word + 1 bit),
6 ( 6/word),
7 ( 5/word + 1 bit),
8 ( 4/word + 4 bits),
12 ( 3/word), and
18 ( 2/word),
Nine-bit characters were an especially wasteful size, as you could
only get three per word. Might as well use 12-bit chars.
The "7-bit char plus 1 bit to indicate a line number" was probably the
most common, although the 6BIT representation was used a lot in the
systems code...
Stu Friedberg (stuartf@sequent.com)
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40 characters, Dave. The radix of radix 50 is octal.
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>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
Hey! Leave off PDP-10s. They had 9 bit chars. We might never have needed
Unicode.
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In article <199901141623.LAA26240@cse.psu.edu> you write:
>I'ld rather go to long long though its more painful. That way,
>as dmr points out, dates before the epoch are still representable
>as negative numbers. Going to ulong makes a good chunk of my
>life unrepresentable. Of course, I'll be dead by 2038 and I don't
>have any kids so what do I care...
What, you're that old?
>We could always bring back pdp10's and their 36 bit ints.
Were you FISHing for a flame there? I think you got a....
Nibble. And maybe four bytes.
- Dan C.
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I used to be DEC field service for 10's and 20's.
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