From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <201104300116.47971.errno@cox.net> References: <201104292105.39780.errno@cox.net> <33F21281-6959-49EB-91E6-2906EC606483@9srv.net> <201104300116.47971.errno@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <19CDA23C-57FA-4923-845A-9D2FD654E27B@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ethan Grammatikidis Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:18:03 +0100 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames Topicbox-Message-UUID: d9adc6b4-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 30 Apr 2011, at 9:16 am, errno wrote: > > So, shaking this out just a bit further: > > (anyone reading, please just ignore this if you find it too long, > and/or too annoying, and/or too naive - or whatever - I'd rather > hear crickets chirping than hecklers carping - thanks) I hope you won't find this post heckling, although I will admit I find the temptation to troll almost irresistible when web "technology" is involved. > Porting Options: > > * gecko Gecko had a reputation for really bad code some years ago. I don't think this has improved, I think it's got worse considering the devs would rather write long blog posts whining about exactly how hard it is to integrate about:blank into Firefox 4 when they could have it store a zero-length (or a blank html) page internally and display that with the standard renderer. Also, if it's any guide to gecko performance, Firefox is !%@%#@ slow! Firefox 3 manages to make my dual-core 1.8GHz 2GB netbook seem horribly outdated where Opera runs just fine. I'm not even thinking about touching Firefox 4. > * webkit I don't know what the current status is, but it seems to go through phases of being very unstable. That said, I'm actually half-wishing I had a stable webkit browser in Linux. Still, it's C++ and I can only add to what you've heard regarding the difficulties of porting a C++ development environment. ;) Possibly another option: * netsurf I'm reliably informed this is making very good progress. It also _may_ be possible to build it with a compiler other than gcc. They recommend gcc now, but not too long ago they supported a range of compilers. It certainly builds and runs on a much wider range of systems than either Gecko or Webkit, both of which are tied to one toolkit. I think I'd better stop now, before I go into a rant about that "one toolkit."