From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <1E47E1C7-F15B-4295-9B7F-F1CFA96508AB@fastmail.fm> From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <000b01cacf1f$3d25e570$b771b050$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:29:22 +0100 References: <20100325114948.GA7249@polynum.com> <31C84C15-2EE3-46CA-BE9F-48F20886ADF7@fastmail.fm> <202b36ec0f14adf4b09e53052147ccc8@brasstown.quanstro.net> <11721B64-8041-4D96-94E3-49472F941C38@fastmail.fm> <32d987d51003281236m7a890b0dkaf4de23191fa3d47@mail.gmail.com> <8AB033EC-13D4-4BD3-A70F-B9CE7D724238@fastmail.fm> <2653D5E1-ADDE-4351-8DE1-896D490DED68@fastmail.fm> <000b01cacf1f$3d25e570$b771b050$@com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons Topicbox-Message-UUID: f78262b8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 29 Mar 2010, at 10:07, Patrick Kelly wrote: >> since we are trying so hard to create new problems for Plan 9, should >> i assume the old ones have all been solved? > > Sadly I think this is just people adding complexity because, 'that=92s = =20 > how Linux does it', and must be correct. Either that or they desire =20= > complexity for familiarity; an even more chilling possibility. On my part I guess I'm assuming complexity will come, whether we like =20= it or not. I don't find it easy to believe that we can avoid =20 complexity forever, and I get the feeling some relatively rapid growth =20= is coming. Could Plan 9 grows to the point of having many GUI =20 applications and many facilities to support those apps and it still =20 get by without any sort of package manager? Heh, actually I hope we =20 can. I was involved with maintaining a linux distro for a few years =20 and even given a much saner base system I'm not keen on taking up =20 package maintenance again. A script or two to help find what was =20 installed might be just the thing, and let "upstream" sort out whether =20= their code works with anyone else's. --=20 Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis