* [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
@ 2021-01-27 23:30 pouya+lists.9fans
2021-01-28 0:34 ` ori
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
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From: pouya+lists.9fans @ 2021-01-27 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with
Acme Mail, as I use + address suffixes to sort incoming mail and
occasionally need to send emails from the same (e.g. to this mailing
list). Not finding a convenient way, I committed a bad hack to
include an optional From: line in the header of outgoing messages.
It's available at
9p.io/sources/contrib/pdt/acme/mail
in case someone might find it useful (or be kind enough to tell me
this is not the right way to do it).
Pouya
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-27 23:30 [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address pouya+lists.9fans
@ 2021-01-28 0:34 ` ori
2021-01-28 8:34 ` sirjofri
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
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From: ori @ 2021-01-28 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Quoth pouya+lists.9fans@nohup.io:
> I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with
> Acme Mail, as I use + address suffixes to sort incoming mail and
> occasionally need to send emails from the same (e.g. to this mailing
> list). Not finding a convenient way, I committed a bad hack to
> include an optional From: line in the header of outgoing messages.
> It's available at
>
> 9p.io/sources/contrib/pdt/acme/mail
>
> in case someone might find it useful (or be kind enough to tell me
> this is not the right way to do it).
>
The ability is useful, but the code to do it would be better
placed in upas/marshal.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 0:34 ` ori
@ 2021-01-28 8:34 ` sirjofri
2021-01-28 10:09 ` Alex Musolino
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From: sirjofri @ 2021-01-28 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Hey ori,
I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in Nail?
(No crazy filtering in Nail?)
Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a nice
feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I
don't think it would change existing behavior too much.
sirjofri
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-27 23:30 [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address pouya+lists.9fans
2021-01-28 0:34 ` ori
@ 2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
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From: Richard Miller @ 2021-01-28 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with
> Acme Mail
That's what /mail/box/$user/pipefrom is for. (Not specific to acme.)
For example, my pipefrom includes this:
if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
sed '1,/^$/s/^(From: .*)<miller@hamnavoe.com>/\1<9fans@hamnavoe.com>/' | upas/send $options $dests
exit
}
If I want to do a one-off send from an alias, I edit /mail/box/$user/headers temporarily
to add a From: line.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 8:34 ` sirjofri
@ 2021-01-28 10:09 ` Alex Musolino
2021-01-28 11:06 ` sirjofri
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From: Alex Musolino @ 2021-01-28 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in Nail?
> (No crazy filtering in Nail?)
>
> Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a nice
> feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I
> don't think it would change existing behavior too much.
Seems it's already in 9front. I can just write my own custom From:
header with Nail or marshal(1). I've never had much reason to change
it so I just put the From: header you see in this message in
/mail/box/alex/headers.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 10:09 ` Alex Musolino
@ 2021-01-28 11:06 ` sirjofri
2021-01-28 11:50 ` alex
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From: sirjofri @ 2021-01-28 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
28.01.2021 11:09:20 Alex Musolino <alex@musolino.id.au>:
>> I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in
Nail?
>> (No crazy filtering in Nail?)
>>
>> Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a
nice
>> feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I
>> don't think it would change existing behavior too much.
>
> Seems it's already in 9front. I can just write my own custom From:
> header with Nail or marshal(1). I've never had much reason to change
> it so I just put the From: header you see in this message in
> /mail/box/alex/headers.
Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always
converted to a destination address.
sirjofri
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 11:06 ` sirjofri
@ 2021-01-28 11:50 ` alex
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From: alex @ 2021-01-28 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always
> converted to a destination address.
Perhaps that's a quirk of acme Mail? Works for me with Nail and
marshal(1).
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
@ 2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-01-28 22:26 ` ori
2021-01-28 23:21 ` ori
2021-01-29 14:36 ` sirjofri
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: pouya+lists.9fans @ 2021-01-28 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Thank you all for your feedback.
I have combined my answers to a few responses below.
> [pouya+lists.9fans@nohup.io]
>> I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with
>> Acme Mail
[9fans@hamnavoe.com]
> That's what /mail/box/$user/pipefrom is for. (Not specific to acme.)
>
Thank you. This seems much more elegant than my hack as a general
solution.
[ori@eigenstate.org]
> The ability is useful, but the code to do it would be better
> placed in upas/marshal.
Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env
variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the
headers in the input?
[sirjofri+ml-9fans@sirjofri.de]
> Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always
> converted to a destination address.
I should take a closer look but I seem to recall some special handling
of From: lines in acme Mail.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
@ 2021-01-28 22:26 ` ori
2021-01-28 23:21 ` ori
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From: ori @ 2021-01-28 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Quoth pouya+lists.9fans@nohup.io:
> Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env
> variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the
> headers in the input?
I was thinking that
echo From: foo; message | upas/marshal
should be roughly equivalent to:
upasname=foo
echo message | upas/marshal
but it may be better to just use a pipefrom.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-01-28 22:26 ` ori
@ 2021-01-28 23:21 ` ori
2021-01-29 10:17 ` Richard Miller
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From: ori @ 2021-01-28 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Quoth pouya+lists.9fans@nohup.io:
> I should take a closer look but I seem to recall some special handling
> of From: lines in acme Mail.
Yes -- acme Mail does set its own From lines,
among other things that annoyed me.
(That's why I rewrote it as Nail: less cleverness,
less code, and thread sorting of messages:
http://shithub.us/git/ori/Nail/HEAD/info.html)
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 23:21 ` ori
@ 2021-01-29 10:17 ` Richard Miller
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From: Richard Miller @ 2021-01-29 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Yes -- acme Mail does set its own From lines,
That's overridden by the From: in /mail/box/$user/headers if there is one.
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
@ 2021-01-29 14:36 ` sirjofri
2021-01-30 15:01 ` pdt
2021-01-30 15:06 ` pdt
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From: sirjofri @ 2021-01-29 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I adjusted my pipefrom and added a default headers file, so lets see
if this mail arrives with the correct sender address.
sirjofri
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
2021-01-28 19:07 ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-01-29 14:36 ` sirjofri
@ 2021-01-30 15:01 ` pdt
2021-01-30 15:06 ` pdt
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From: pdt @ 2021-01-30 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
[9fans@hamnavoe.com]
> if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
> sed '1,/^$/s/^(From: .*)<miller@hamnavoe.com>/\1<9fans@hamnavoe.com>/' | upas/send $options $dests
> exit
> }
Testing this. Please ignore!
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
2021-01-28 10:00 ` Richard Miller
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-30 15:01 ` pdt
@ 2021-01-30 15:06 ` pdt
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From: pdt @ 2021-01-30 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
[9fans@hamnavoe.com]
> if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
> sed '1,/^$/s/^(From: .*)<miller@hamnavoe.com>/\1<9fans@hamnavoe.com>/' | upas/send $options $dests
> exit
> }
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* Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
@ 2021-01-28 22:51 Romano
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From: Romano @ 2021-01-28 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Quoth pouya+lists.9fans@nohup.io:
>> Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env
>> variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the
>> headers in the input?
>
> I was thinking that
>
> echo From: foo; message | upas/marshal
>
> should be roughly equivalent to:
>
> upasname=foo
> echo message | upas/marshal
>
> but it may be better to just use a pipefrom.
Take what I say with a big a grain of salt--I set it up months ago and
haven't considered it again after Ori's re-work in 9front on
mail-related things. I am not using my own smtp server, but call out
to different ones based on the address I'm using.
For my setup, I had to set both the env var and add the 'From:' line,
IIRC. I have wrapper scripts that I can click on to send an e-mail
while in Acme, specifying which account I want to send from. It's
probably more convoluted than it needs to be, but I just wanted to get
mail working on 9front. So in my wrapper script I setup upasname env
var and also start off the message with a 'From:' line:
upasname=myacct@example.com
echo From: Myname '<'^$upasname^'>' >/tmp/from.$upasname
mailfrom $upasname $*
The last call to mailfrom calls /bin/mailfrom, which contains this:
#!/bin/rc
upasname=$1
shift
if (~ $winid '')
err=`{echo -n Cannot find window id}
if (! test -d /mnt/acme/^$winid)
err=`{echo -n usage: Must be run in Acme}
if (~ $upasname '')
err=`{echo -n usage: Must set upasname}
if (! ~ $err '') {
echo $err
status=$err
exit
}
if (! test -f /tmp/from.$upasname)
echo From: $upasname >/tmp/from.$upasname
cat /tmp/from.$upasname /mnt/acme/$winid/body | upas/marshal -8 $*
rm /tmp/from.$upasname
/mail/lib/fromfiles contains one line, which refers to
/mail/lib/from.me:
from.me
/mail/lib/from.me has lines with tab-separated values between the
e-mail from address I use ($upasname) and the mail account
corresponding to it:
myacct+bingo@example.com myaccount@smtp1.example.com
myacct@example.com myotheraccount@smtp2.example.com
In /mail/lib/remotemail, I have cases for the different smtp servers:
#!/bin/rc
shift
sender=$1
shift
addr=$1
shift
fd=`{/bin/upas/aliasmail -f $sender}
switch($fd){
case smtp1.example.com
addr=(-u user1 tcp!^$fd^!ssmtp)
case smtp2.example.com
addr=(-u user2 tcp!^$fd^!ssmtp)
case *.*
;
case *
fd=your.domain
}
exec /bin/upas/smtp -a -t -h $fd $addr $sender $*
Hopefully what I wrote above is more helpful than not.
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