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From: uriel@cat-v.org
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Van Jacobsen's network stack restructure
Date: Thu,  2 Feb 2006 09:24:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1dc491dac03e34c08e7fad7015587f29@cat-v.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43E16A84.6070809@lanl.gov>

> David Leimbach wrote:
> 
>> The bash shell supports /dev/tcp.... kind of evil but you can make
>> connections and send strings via file redirection with it.
> 
> 
> so, on the 'how broken is that' scale, where does this one go?
> 
> the scale, btw, goes from 1 to 11
Around 16.  

Gawk also has this "feature", wont be long before someone adds
it to cat(1)... 

"do one thing, and do it well" has become
"do everything, everywhere, poorly"

I have been wondering lately why don't the FSF replace the whole Hurd
with bash, it even has emacs(nee libreadline) built in!

All features built into a single program, and then use some sort of
virtualization to provide isolation...  and the software industry has
gone full circle once more.

Some times I wonder if any progress is possible, or for every step forward
we take, we will grow an extra leg that takes us back to square zero.

uriel



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-02  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-01 18:20 quanstro
2006-02-02  0:48 ` David Leimbach
2006-02-02  0:49 ` David Leimbach
2006-02-02  2:12   ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-02-02  2:22     ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-02  8:24     ` uriel [this message]
2006-02-02 10:35       ` Charles Forsyth
2006-02-02 11:40         ` ems
     [not found]         ` <000001c627ee$35f3aee0$14aaa8c0@utelsystems.local>
2006-02-02 12:33           ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
2006-02-03  3:36         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-02-03  3:44           ` erik quanstrom
2006-02-03  3:48           ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-02 14:36       ` jmk
2006-02-02 16:48         ` Brantley Coile
2006-02-02 18:20           ` ems
2006-02-02 18:24             ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-02-02 19:23               ` Brantley Coile
2006-02-02 19:39               ` jmk
2006-02-02 23:28                 ` Dan Cross
2006-02-02 19:16             ` David Leimbach
2006-02-02 21:28           ` Andy Newman
2006-02-03  3:38       ` ems
2006-02-02 16:59     ` David Leimbach
2006-02-02 17:21       ` C H Forsyth
2006-02-02 19:14         ` David Leimbach
2006-02-02 20:46           ` Charles Forsyth
2006-02-02 20:57             ` Charles Forsyth
2006-02-03  3:55           ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-02-03  4:06             ` erik quanstrom
2006-02-03  4:07             ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-02-03  4:12               ` ems
2006-02-03  4:25                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-02-06  4:25             ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-02-10 19:15               ` rog
2006-02-11  1:20                 ` geoff
2006-02-11  1:59                   ` jmk
2006-02-20 20:37                   ` Paweł Lasek
2006-02-20 20:54                     ` jmk
2006-02-20 23:11                       ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-02-20 23:30                         ` Charles Forsyth
2006-02-02  2:11 ` Ronald G Minnich
     [not found] <000101c6285f$54291320$14aaa8c0@utelsystems.local>
2006-02-03  7:20 ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
     [not found] <6.0.2.0.0.20060203132930.01c25178@pop.monitorbm.co.nz>
2006-02-03  3:30 ` Andrew Simmons
2006-02-03  3:35   ` jmk
2006-02-03  3:41     ` Andrew Simmons
2006-02-03  3:45       ` ems
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-03  2:09 quanstro
2006-02-03  1:00 quanstro
2006-02-03  1:11 ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-03  0:39 quanstro
2006-02-02 17:43 quanstro
2006-02-03  0:24 ` geoff
2006-02-03  0:31   ` George Michaelson
2006-02-03  0:30 ` Russ Cox
2006-02-03  1:42 ` Aki M Nyrhinen
2006-02-03  3:33   ` Marina Brown
2006-02-02 17:14 quanstro
2006-02-01 20:50 quanstro
2006-02-02 19:29 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-02-01 20:35 quanstro
2006-02-01 19:13 quanstro
2006-02-02  1:27 ` Russ Cox
2006-02-02  2:01   ` ems
2006-02-02  2:44     ` George Michaelson
2006-02-01 18:55 quanstro
2006-02-01  4:28 Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-01  5:57 ` ems
2006-02-01  6:00   ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-01  6:06     ` ems
2006-02-01  6:03   ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-02-01 17:46 ` uriel
2006-02-01 18:10   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-02-02 13:37 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-02-02 17:40   ` Bakul Shah
2006-02-02 18:01     ` C H Forsyth
2006-02-02 18:16       ` Bakul Shah
2006-02-02 19:21         ` David Leimbach
2006-02-03  3:44           ` Ronald G Minnich

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