We are pleased to announce the creation of the Plan 9 Foundation. The Foundation exists to promote and further the development of Plan 9 and related technologies for lightweight distributed systems. More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. We've also brought up a new wiki, reachable on the web at http://p9f.org/wiki/welcome/ or over 9p at tcp!p9f.org!wiki. As our first major activity, the Plan 9 Foundation will be coordinating Plan 9's application to (and, should we be accepted, participation in) Google's Summer of Code. That includes hosting the all-important Ideas Page for this year, as well as other supporting documentation; more on that in a separate email. We'll also be coordinating the return of the International Workshop on Plan 9. Last year's efforts to bring IWP9 back were a big part of what led to the creation of the Foundation. It's still not clear when we'll be able to have an in-person conference responsibly, but we're eager to get there. We want to make Plan 9 and all that surrounds it stronger, more accessible, and more useful for all. We know there's plenty going on already and we want to be clear that we're excited about that. We hope to add to that, provide some additional resources, and improve things for everyone using Plan 9 technology in their projects. We're still getting started and have quite a bit to do before everything is running smoothly, but we're really excited for what the year's going to bring. 2021 is going to be great for Glenda. Thank you for your time, Geoff Collier David du Colombier Charles Forsyth Paul Lalonde Ron Minnich Jeff Sickel Anthony Sorace Skip Tavakkolian ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M06cc2dfb926c384791440200 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
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Hello, On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: > We are pleased to announce the creation of the Plan 9 Foundation. > > The Foundation exists to promote and further the development of Plan 9 and related technologies for lightweight distributed systems. > > More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. We've also brought up a new wiki, reachable on the web at http://p9f.org/wiki/welcome/ or over 9p at tcp!p9f.org!wiki. > > As our first major activity, the Plan 9 Foundation will be coordinating Plan 9's application to (and, should we be accepted, participation in) Google's Summer of Code. That includes hosting the all-important Ideas Page for this year, as well as other supporting documentation; more on that in a separate email. > One suggestion: add a link for donations. I, for one, when I can't provide code to software I'm interested in (even remotely), try at least to give some money. My 2 cts (it will be a little more if I donate), -- Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com> http://www.kergis.com/ http://kertex.kergis.com/ http://www.sbfa.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mab3cb8bb6e7cbd15fa13793d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? D > On Feb 10, 2021, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> wrote: > > We are pleased to announce the creation of the Plan 9 Foundation. > > The Foundation exists to promote and further the development of Plan 9 and related technologies for lightweight distributed systems. > > More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. We've also brought up a new wiki, reachable on the web at http://p9f.org/wiki/welcome/ or over 9p at tcp!p9f.org!wiki. > > As our first major activity, the Plan 9 Foundation will be coordinating Plan 9's application to (and, should we be accepted, participation in) Google's Summer of Code. That includes hosting the all-important Ideas Page for this year, as well as other supporting documentation; more on that in a separate email. > > We'll also be coordinating the return of the International Workshop on Plan 9. Last year's efforts to bring IWP9 back were a big part of what led to the creation of the Foundation. It's still not clear when we'll be able to have an in-person conference responsibly, but we're eager to get there. > > We want to make Plan 9 and all that surrounds it stronger, more accessible, and more useful for all. We know there's plenty going on already and we want to be clear that we're excited about that. We hope to add to that, provide some additional resources, and improve things for everyone using Plan 9 technology in their projects. > > We're still getting started and have quite a bit to do before everything is running smoothly, but we're really excited for what the year's going to bring. 2021 is going to be great for Glenda. > > Thank you for your time, > > Geoff Collier > David du Colombier > Charles Forsyth > Paul Lalonde > Ron Minnich > Jeff Sickel > Anthony Sorace > Skip Tavakkolian > ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mdf409f59a76ecb52d0754e9e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
> Thierry asked: > > One suggestion: add a link for donations. I, for one, when I can't > provide code to software I'm interested in (even remotely), try at > least to give some money. > Don asked: > > How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? Glad to hear there's interest! We'll absolutely have ways for people to get involved (including financial support, for those inclined) soon, but there's still a bunch of stuff we have to get in order first. Anthony ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mab6d1108b17715c7d76b413d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
> How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can. -Steve ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mf8d4170c614f10a8bb00470f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 567 bytes --] Same! Enjoyed helping out with iwp92020, happy to help further. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:07 AM Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > > How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? > > I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can. > > -Steve -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M2c692b4a4c8158d3e3ebd082 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1862 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1155 bytes --] I would also like to support, so keep me posted on opportunities to support and join the foundation. Cheers y’all! On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 8:19 AM Marshall Conover <marzhall.o@gmail.com> wrote: > Same! Enjoyed helping out with iwp92020, happy to help further. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:07 AM Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > >> > How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? >> >> I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can. >> >> -Steve > > > -- > Have a good day, > > Marshall Conover > *9fans <https://9fans.topicbox.com/latest>* / 9fans / see discussions > <https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans> + participants > <https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/members> + delivery options > <https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription> Permalink > <https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M2c692b4a4c8158d3e3ebd082> > ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Ma8c000a38436a51bf9885a5f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2336 bytes --]
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. > "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time." What does this mean? khm ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M4bf297c026c65bf5d54c1618 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
The focus at that time (2009) was on getting a 501(c)3 org to accept the GSoC money after we were accepted that year. I talked to some folks doing similar things in other orgs and was advised that the IRS had stalled granting that to new software-focused non-profits. Since that main driver evaporated, we didn’t push in with the formation. The IRS has figured it out since 2009. :-) > On Feb 10, 2021, at 09:19, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> >> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. >> > > "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused > non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time." > > What does this mean? > > khm ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Me0e561686995415e7a544a5a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
you got other money sources lined up apart from gsoc? i don't know if this might open up some new avenues for those of us who have programming dayjobs but would rather quit those and make something more meaningful that isn't profit-driven and part of the usual IT industry. or what's the idea behind this foundation, the opportunity this might create? ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Md690fa2ee8990ca45be2b0d4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
We’re starting off with the prior years’ GSoC money. We haven’t yet pursued other funding avenues since there’s still a bunch of legal/tax things we have to finish first. > On Feb 10, 2021, at 10:24, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > > you got other money sources lined up apart from gsoc? > > i don't know if this might open up some new avenues for those of us > who have programming dayjobs but would rather quit those and make > something more meaningful that isn't profit-driven and part of the > usual IT industry. > > or what's the idea behind this foundation, the opportunity this might create? ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M5b0db9483b79358eca566801 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
On 2/10/21 12:17 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. >> > "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused > non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time." > > What does this mean? > > Let me guess. In their ongoing effort to starve open source projects of resources, proprietary software vendors lobbied Congress to add special requirements for software projects filing IRS Form 1023? ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mf5d0deeb93dfbcd5c621eb45 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
It did not seem to be anything so nefarious. The IRS was not publicly stating their reasons and I don’t want to speculate about them too much, but it seemed to just be a pause while they figured out how to differentiate legitimate organizations from scam ones. > On Feb 10, 2021, at 10:35, Wes Kussmaul <wes@reliableid.com> wrote: > > >> On 2/10/21 12:17 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: >>> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. >>> >> "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused >> non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time." >> >> What does this mean? >> >> > Let me guess. > > In their ongoing effort to starve open source projects of resources, proprietary software vendors lobbied Congress to add special requirements for software projects filing IRS Form 1023? > ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M6a41169f2bff5d390715212a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1281 bytes --] It is probably fair to say it's harder than setting up an organized church[*] or a Super PAC[**] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Perpetual_Exemption ** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC P.S. For those not familiar with US tax code, politics, or comedy shows: a Venn diagram intersecting all three would have at least the above two examples. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:35 AM Wes Kussmaul <wes@reliableid.com> wrote: > > On 2/10/21 12:17 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: > >> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. > >> > > "That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused > > non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time." > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > Let me guess. > > In their ongoing effort to starve open source projects of resources, > proprietary software vendors lobbied Congress to add special > requirements for software projects filing IRS Form 1023? > ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M55669b679a91022989e0f1f3 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2861 bytes --]
Great news. As soon as you work out the details, please announce on this list. I would like to become a member and donate $ as well. Kim ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-Mb6dd15bd7b8303107fe97c4b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
> We are pleased to announce the creation of the Plan 9 Foundation. This is excellent news. I am especially excited to see some familiar names in the signature (the familiarity is one-directional, partly from when I was lurking around Plan 9 lists back in the 2000s). Would be keen to learn how to support your work. Pouya ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M231ac42ed4e6cad019dcb879 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
in my legislation churches devoted to glenda worshipping are considered sects. it would be great to be able and register in a country where this is possibly a church instead. I found another place where this is discussed https://old.reddit.com/r/plan9/comments/lgoz01/plan_9_foundation/ i approve of this displayed intent to unite the factions and bring plan9 forward, but I fear it will be very hard to track so many media for anybody involved in any of the "factions". some may have no hackernews account, some may have no reddit account, some may have no github account, and all this to me combined comes technically in the way of seamless communication. not a unique thing to this community, but nonetheless a regretful problem. maybe at a certain size fragmentation is even necessary. perhaps it is after all a sign of plan9's success that this seemingly conflictual topic is coming up now. in the meantime, everybody keep on booting their plan9 for it's own sake, please :) On 2/10/21, Kim Shrier <kim@westryn.net> wrote: > Great news. > > As soon as you work out the details, please announce on this list. > I would like to become a member and donate $ as well. > > Kim ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T973ff41a99053355-M2e25620a8a81cc805cfabb10 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription