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Funny, but please chill down a bit. Thin ice here, it feels like spilling m= ore hostile sauce will make it break. I have no doubt that Vic is a real person and I have no doubt in the histor= y of contributions. I believe though, that LLMs changed a lot in society fo= r the worse, including hallucinated responses and patches. If Vic is using an AI system, why not admit it? It can be a helpful tool if= you use it correctly, and apparently (or obviously) Vic is not using it co= rrectly. Anyway, there's no reason to harass a real person about this. Better tell t= hem (as we already did), ask them to stop (as we already did), ask them to = explain (as we already did), teach them (as we already did). If that person= doesn't want to listen, don't feed them. Now Vic, why didn't you listen to any of our requests? Why did you evade ou= r questions and requests? I think the situation would be like that if you j= ust honestly responded months ago when we had a similar discussion. 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