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From: quanstro@quanstro.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: ASN.1 (Was: [9fans] More 'Sam I am')
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:38:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f2719e903264e8fa54f0c36c8032f1d@quanstro.net> (raw)

i worked on a project for years that used a format equivalent
to XML or ASN.1, but we thought simplier.

naming the entities presented no efficiency problems for us.
i spent 6 months in several stints profiling that system
and for a 10k result set, the tcp overhead was greater than
the packing and unpacking overhead, but neither represented
1% of the runtime of any end-to-end process that i looked at.

with the exception of word processors, web browsers, and maybe gcc
i do not agree with your corollary to moore's law. 15 years ago
i was stuck with sun 160s and vaxen. 10 years ago i had a
ibm rs/6000 41t and a 66mhz pentium II. i'm still not up-to-date,
but by all my performance metrics, the 997mhz system i
use now is *way* faster. i've even got a better internet
connection via dialup than the sun/vax setup did in the late 80s.

- erik

On Sat Feb 11 02:24:26 CST 2006, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > So why not /lib/ndb format: textual attribute=value pairs
> > with grouping?
> 
> Because (a) they are language/alphabet specific and (b) they are
> inefficient.
> 
> Before you jump down my throat, I am aware that the inefficiencies
> smack of premature optimisation, but in ASN.1 days they were mere
> failures of vision.  And I do maintain that saving processor cycles
> and storage is not a futile quest.  The corollary to Moore's Law is
> "Software bloat exceeds any gains in processor performance even before
> such gains can be exploited".


             reply	other threads:[~2006-02-11 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-11 14:38 quanstro [this message]
2006-02-11 15:52 ` lucio
2006-02-11 22:17   ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-11 22:24     ` Russ Cox
2006-02-11 22:26       ` Christopher Nielsen
2006-02-11 22:34         ` Russ Cox
2006-02-11 23:38           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-02-11 22:47             ` Bruce Ellis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-11 20:10 quanstro
2006-02-12  3:11 ` Jack Johnson
2006-02-12  3:16   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-02-12  3:57 ` lucio
2006-02-12  5:46   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-02-11 16:18 quanstro
2006-02-11 19:41 ` lucio
2006-02-11 20:47 ` Richard Miller
2006-02-11 14:37 quanstro
2006-02-11  0:10 [9fans] More 'Sam I am' quanstro
2006-02-11  6:04 ` ASN.1 (Was: [9fans] More 'Sam I am') lucio
2006-02-11  6:54   ` geoff
2006-02-11  8:06     ` lucio
2006-02-11  8:44       ` geoff
2006-02-11 12:10         ` lucio
2006-02-11  8:55     ` Steve Simon
2006-02-11  9:16       ` Bruce Ellis
2006-02-11  7:04   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-02-11  7:09     ` geoff
2006-02-11  7:53       ` lucio
2006-02-11  7:53       ` Skip Tavakkolian

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