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If I can stop getting sun burned, my chances of contributing would imp= rove. I often wonder how many more contributors there might have been if th= e environment were different. Fostering a better environment would help imp= rove the chance for collaboration is what I'm saying. It seems that hiring = someone to help do this for me is a better idea. That way I can step out of= the sun. Makes sense. There's a simple rule on the internet: don't feed the troll. W= e have a troll here (and if you read other threads or join the 9front commu= nication channels every now and then, you'll quickly notice them). I never = tried to change their behavior, because they're adults, and usually that ki= nd of trolling stays within borders and they usually have a point (showing = the absurdity of questions, for example). It's important to know what you can ignore and what you can learn from it. = I can safely say that I ignore many of those troll mails. I read them, I fi= nd the relevant truth, ignore everything else in that mail, then I go on wi= th the next mail in that thread. It's far from a professional environment. On the other hand, most of us do = Plan 9 as a hobby. Don't take everything so seriously. In the 9front mailin= g list some mails are just links to music or funny videos/articles. It's on= ly natural that some of this relaxed behavior spills over to the 9fans mail= ing list. If you want a true=E2=84=A2=C2=AE=C2=A9 professional environment,= just set up a slack. And yes, this is somewhat of a troll (I'm not good at= it). > Take care This is very important. Take care. Have a nice day and enjoy the sun from the shadows. sirjofri ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te051f230f2656bbb-M95a4c= b9d7708227dad7d179b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription