From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] SO for plan9?
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:10:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200006241110.MAA02836@whitecrow.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:05:30 GMT." <vboog4sx0hx.fsf@storch.amtp.cam.ac.uk>
>
> > Libraries are about sharing functionality. Not code, and not
> > services, but functionality.
>
> How does plan9 solve the problem that for some functionality, it is
> much more efficient (or at least simpler) to manipulate directly the
> C/C++/whatever data structures instead of having to write/read plan9
> files and convert the data gathered there? Does one, in such cases,
> write a wrapper library or do plan9 programs take a different route?
Like I said, each problem is solved on its individual merits, but
with a view that encompasses the whole system, rather than just the
local problem. One is unlikely to produce a file server to offer trig
functionality. Consider the difference between command-line option
parsing and making a network connection. Both are done by many programs.
Both start as calls to common library functions. Option handling, as
I understand it, doesn't go further, while network connections call on
the services of kernel- and user-level file servers. Where to draw the
line is a matter of judgement, but Plan 9 has more flexibility that
Unix does in the matter.
Efficiency is one thing, but simplicity is something else. If all the
application program does is a call a function, what does it care whether
the underlying implementation does everything in-process, or uses a
file server?
steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-06-24 10:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-06-20 8:47 Oleg Krivosheev
[not found] ` <kriol@wally.fnal.gov>
2000-06-20 16:12 ` Tom Duff
2000-06-21 8:41 ` Oleg Krivosheev
2000-06-21 9:03 ` Alexander Viro
2000-06-22 8:45 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-06-22 12:49 ` Howard Trickey
2000-06-22 13:19 ` Greg Hudson
2000-06-22 21:47 ` Steve Kilbane
2000-06-26 9:00 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-06-23 8:57 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-06-23 13:05 ` Kasper Peeters
[not found] ` <K.Peeters@damtp.cam.ac.uk>
2000-06-23 16:01 ` Tom Duff
2000-06-24 10:10 ` Steve Kilbane [this message]
2000-06-20 10:13 rob pike
2000-06-21 15:16 dhog
2000-06-21 17:56 ` Randolph Fritz
2000-06-22 8:40 ` Oleg Krivosheev
2000-06-22 13:08 Anthony Sorace
2000-06-25 11:56 forsyth
2000-06-26 9:03 ` Michael Dingler
2000-06-26 10:23 ` Nigel Roles
2000-06-26 14:22 ` Steve Kotsopoulos
2000-06-26 14:44 ` Nigel Roles
2000-06-27 8:31 ` Michael Dingler
2000-06-28 8:27 ` Steve Simon
2000-06-28 9:40 ` Nigel Roles
[not found] ` <ngr@9fs.org>
2000-06-28 16:50 ` Tom Duff
2000-06-29 12:59 ` Douglas Fraser
2000-06-29 8:31 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-06-26 13:53 ` James A. Robinson
2000-06-26 14:09 rob pike
2000-06-26 14:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2000-06-28 8:28 ` Chris Locke
2000-06-28 14:50 ` Srinivasa, Balaji
2000-06-28 10:40 john
2000-06-28 19:35 forsyth
2000-07-07 2:15 rob pike
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