Hi This may seem a bit cumbersome when you initially think about it, but : The reason 'allow' is fine on the stand-alone file fileserver is because of physical security. Is it possibly to provide a similar facility in the context of the general purpose system ? Maybe the use of smart cards might be a solution. At system configuration time, you config the system to recognize the bearer of a particular card as the admin. Whenever you need to admin the system, insert the smartcard, do stuff, pull it out, capability gone. just a thought. - pip