From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:09:47 -0400 From: bwc@borf.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Kernighan interview (w/ Plan 9 mention) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-pflvpeoprpicrqoxdmmdxzlkei" Message-Id: <20000906131234.12CA8199E6@mail> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0393a6be-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-pflvpeoprpicrqoxdmmdxzlkei Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lucnet != ATT. Once you have the license, you have the license. At the time of the BSDI case the idea of an open license was unthinkable. The fact that we now have one for Plan 9 indicates, I think, new attitudes inside Lucent. Just a guess. Brantley --upas-pflvpeoprpicrqoxdmmdxzlkei Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from new.borf.com ([205.185.197.9]) by edsac; Wed Sep 6 09:06:11 EDT 2000 Received: from mail (postfix@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by new.borf.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29879; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (unknown [130.203.8.6]) by mail (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2BB22199E9; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0A39199DE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13WJkT-0005WO-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:30:53 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:27:58 GMT From: Conway Yee Message-ID: Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science References: <39B4C71E.CEA88DDB@ysbl.york.ac.uk> Subject: [9fans] Re: Kernighan interview (w/ Plan 9 mention) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the O/S Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> Leo Caves writes: > Arguably, Linux transitioned from its hobbyist niche > to a wider acceptance through a server role. The effort now > seems to be back to the desktop. > > Its difficult to tell in what way Plan 9 might make such a transition. I would argue that such a transition will likely never take place. First, there is usually only room for 1 "killer app" in the market and Linux has already taken up that role. Second, who can forget the litigation over NET/2? Anyone who contributes with the intent of transitioning to a server role will eventually have to deal with ATT's lawyers. I believe that the engineers/scientists at ATT are honorable but are their lawyers? Third, as it stands, Plan 9's license is hardly appropriate to those who would run it for serious applications. Who wants to take the risk of having ATT own your application? Conway Yee --upas-pflvpeoprpicrqoxdmmdxzlkei--