[9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in Plan9?

[9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in Plan9?

[boyd.roberts]

From: Rick Hohensee <humbubba@smarty.smart.net>
>    Linkname: seedoc of the Dotted Standard Filename Hierarchy
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like i a fool, i went and read this stuff.  apart from the fact that
most of the sentences were incomprehensible, despite the fact that i'm
a tertiery educated, native english speaker, the real horror is that
it solves nothing, adds nothing and serves no purpose.

Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in Plan9?

[Andy Newman]

Boyd wrote:
>it solves nothing, adds nothing and serves no purpose.
History?  Boyd and Alex Viro agreeing!

Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in Plan9?

[Alexander Viro]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Andy Newman wrote:

> Boyd wrote:
> >it solves nothing, adds nothing and serves no purpose.
> History?  Boyd and Alex Viro agreeing!

Oh, horror...

Seriously, folks, I apologize for the thread-drift. If somebody wants
to discuss Linux-specific stuff - let's take it to email or to
l-k/fsdevel. Again, sorry about that.

PS: Rick, if you are interested in the bootloader stuff - just ask.
Parameter-passing _is_ doable even with cat bzImage >/dev/fd0 kind of
approach. Documentation/i386/boot.txt  should contain enough details, but
if you'll need help - let's take it to email.

Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in

[Rick Hohensee]

>
> PS: Rick, if you are interested in the bootloader stuff - just ask.
> Parameter-passing _is_ doable even with cat bzImage >/dev/fd0 kind of
> approach. Documentation/i386/boot.txt  should contain enough details, but
> if you'll need help - let's take it to email.
>
>

Sorry Maestros, but...
There is no boot.txt in the Linux 2.2 or 2.4 source trees, and if
Al's not also imagining his widely unknown bootloaderless general
parameter passing method, 2 extra execve's in init/main.c is surely
simpler.

Rick Hohensee

(He's probably thinking of the 5 16 bit values you can rdev, as explained
correctly in Documentation/ramdisk.txt, and starkly incorrectly in Linux
man rdev, last I looked. )

Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in

[Alexander Viro]

On Mon, 23 Oct 100, Rick Hohensee wrote:

> >
> > PS: Rick, if you are interested in the bootloader stuff - just ask.
> > Parameter-passing _is_ doable even with cat bzImage >/dev/fd0 kind of
> > approach. Documentation/i386/boot.txt  should contain enough details, but
> > if you'll need help - let's take it to email.
> >
> >
>
> Sorry Maestros, but...
> There is no boot.txt in the Linux 2.2 or 2.4 source trees, and if

% gzip -dc linux-2.4.0-test10.tar.gz|tar t|grep boot.txt
linux/Documentation/i386/boot.txt

*plonk*

Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in

[rick]

>
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Oct 100, Rick Hohensee wrote:
>
> > >
> > > PS: Rick, if you are interested in the bootloader stuff - just ask.
> > > Parameter-passing _is_ doable even with cat bzImage >/dev/fd0 kind of
> > > approach. Documentation/i386/boot.txt  should contain enough details, but
> > > if you'll need help - let's take it to email.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Sorry Maestros, but...
> > There is no boot.txt in the Linux 2.2 or 2.4 source trees, and if
>
> % gzip -dc linux-2.4.0-test10.tar.gz|tar t|grep boot.txt
> linux/Documentation/i386/boot.txt
>
> *plonk*
>
>

I'm happy for you. On ftp.us.kernel.org I get

-rw-r--r--    1 0        0               0 Oct  3 16:36 LATEST-IS-2.4.0-test9

Meanwhile, on another shell,


:; \H /dev/tty5 root 08:37:27   /
:;date
Tue Oct 24 08:37:31 EDT 2000
:; \H /dev/tty5 root 08:37:31   /
:;

Rick Hohensee

[9fans] Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in

[Tom Duff]

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On Oct 23,  7:43pm, Rick Hohensee wrote:
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Réf. : Tr: [9fans] Df command in
> >
> > PS: Rick, if you are interested in the bootloader stuff - just ask.
> > Parameter-passing _is_ doable even with cat bzImage >/dev/fd0 kind of
> > approach. Documentation/i386/boot.txt  should contain enough details, but
> > if you'll need help - let's take it to email.
> >
> >
>
> Sorry Maestros, but...
> There is no boot.txt in the Linux 2.2 or 2.4 source trees, and if
> Al's not also imagining his widely unknown bootloaderless general
> parameter passing method, 2 extra execve's in init/main.c is surely
> simpler.

We're way off topic here.  The only thing your bizarre suggestion
accomplishes is to make the names /bin, /sbin, /etc, etc. not appear
when someone types ls /.  You can, of course, make all the symbolic
links you think you need without changing any of the existing names,
change no code at all, in or out of the kernel, and have every effect
you want except that ls / shows a few old names.  Surely this one
feature isn't worth anything even the trivial change you're asking
for.

Furthermore, the plan 9 view is that ls's Unix behavior (not listing
names that start with .) is a bug kludging around a bug, and plan 9
fixes both.

-- 
Tom Duff.  He appears to have J.C. Penney's taste in ties.