From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Future of Plan9 From: forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-piysbyfmgdlfsfukqkmoummjii" Message-Id: <20001221182507.EF827199E3@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:25:43 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3bb85a30-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-piysbyfmgdlfsfukqkmoummjii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit is there some spec. for icq (the protocol)? i've got some old public source code but it looks as though they reverse engineered it, and if i were to implement it (not that i am) i'd prefer to do it from a spec, and only then look at source to see all the places that the spec is wrong or misleading or extended, as befits any Internet protocol. --upas-piysbyfmgdlfsfukqkmoummjii Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.36]) by lavoro; Thu Dec 21 11:03:24 GMT 2000 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk id 977393327:10:13719:0; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:08:47 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104267; 21 Dec 2000 10:08 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C90D7199FC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 05:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 41D52199DD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 05:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1492IR-000550-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:45:59 +0000 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Alexander C. Deztroyer" Message-ID: <91ra7i$54s35$1@ID-64718.news.dfncis.de> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK References: <91nt3g$t2f$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, <20001220195936.B199@localhost.local> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Future of Plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Fans of the O/S Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:44:53 GMT > I am still very much at the early learning stage of understanding the > full potential of plan9. But on a gut level, the word that comes to mind > is "minimalism". What I mean by this is that if something is not really > needed, why have it. Acme is cool too. I use MWM on my FreeBSD partition and like it for > being simple. Eventually, I would like to set up a home network > and run it as it was designed but for now I am just getting a feel > for the terrain. It might be fun to have something like "micq" > but it's not necessary. I am a 100% agree with your point. Because ppl from bell lab would rather use e-mail rather than icq. Well, if you really want to use icq-clone, don't be shy to write a program or port it to plan 9. It might have use for somebody. But remember one point: Plan 9 is a system use to serve as a distributed system, but a personal computing system. If you like the functions provided by those fancy OSes, by all means change back to it. We enjoy Plan 9 as it is simple, easy to use (is it really easy for beginners :-) ) Alex --upas-piysbyfmgdlfsfukqkmoummjii--