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From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: The problem with SSH2
Date: Mon,  1 Jan 2001 09:37:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010101143731.DB61F199E7@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

My disagreement with SSH is more specific.  It is a securitymonger's
plaything, so has been stuffed with every authentication and encryption
technology known, yet those that are configured when it is installed is
a random variable.  Therefore both sides must negotiate like crazy to figure
how to talk, and one often finds that there is no shared language. This is
idiocy.  The complexity is silly, but much worse is that there isn't at least
one guaranteed protocol for authentication and encryption that both
ends always have and can use as a fallback.  I would argue that that
would always be sufficient, but I know I'm in the minority there.  I do
argue that it's demonstrably necessary.

Algorithms everywhere, and not a byte to send.

-rob



             reply	other threads:[~2001-01-01 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-01 14:37 rob pike [this message]
2001-01-01 15:18 ` Markus Friedl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-27  2:34 rob pike
2001-01-27  2:37 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  2:13 dmr
2001-01-27  2:30 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  1:04 presotto
2001-01-26 19:56 rsc
2001-01-26 20:46 ` Dan Cross
2001-01-29 13:40   ` David Rubin
2001-01-27  0:43 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  1:01 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27 14:34 ` Markus Friedl
2001-01-01 15:37 rob pike
2001-01-01 15:43 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02  8:27   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-01-02 17:49   ` cLIeNUX user
     [not found] <20001231162642.A9783@folly>
2000-12-31 17:55 ` Jim Choate
2001-01-01  7:38   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-26 14:33     ` Ozan Yigit

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