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From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] off topic: troff book
Date: Sun,  7 Jan 2001 10:17:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010107151801.CD357199F7@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

I didn't switch to tex when it came out because it just seemed like
the same thing packaged differently.  It didn't seem like an
improvement.  As time has passed, I have come to understand that it
does equations better, which many people care about, and is free,
which many people care about.  Those are its advantages.  It also has
many disadvantages, including a screwy chatty user interface and a
serious misjudgement about how fonts should work, which saddles it
with very few fonts - until recently, only one - which is, in turn,
certainly the ugliest book font that ever got widespread use.  Latex
extended this mistake into the same story about layout, so that today
90% of the technical books and papers in the world look exactly the
same: grey, unbalanced, and drab, like an oil painting done by a rank
amateur.

Because this at one level so unimportant, but at another is the entire
point of the exercise - why create a layout language that produces
only one layout; why create a font language if only one person
in the world can use it to make a font - it rankles.

-rob



             reply	other threads:[~2001-01-07 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-07 15:17 rob pike [this message]
2001-01-08  9:54 ` Luis Fernandes
2001-01-08 16:18 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-01-08 20:07   ` Dan Cross
2001-01-12  9:32     ` saroj
2001-01-12 17:17       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-01-12 17:51         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-16 16:25         ` saroj
2001-01-12 18:20       ` William K. Josephson
2001-01-12 18:51       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-16 16:31         ` saroj
2001-01-08 17:19 ` James A. Robinson
2001-01-08 19:21   ` Howard Trickey
2001-01-09  9:38     ` Andy Newman
2001-01-09  9:54       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-10  0:16 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-01-11  9:50   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-08 15:17 John A. Murdie
2001-01-08 10:29 John A. Murdie
2001-01-08 15:06 ` Mark C. Otto
2001-01-02 10:54 steve.simon
2001-01-03  8:29 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-05  9:49   ` [9fans] " John E. Gwyn
2001-01-05 14:52     ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-27 19:26 James A. Robinson
2001-01-02 17:44 ` John E. Gwyn
2001-01-05  9:48 ` Allan J. Heim
2001-01-05 14:54   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-05 19:29     ` Steve Kilbane
2001-01-06 17:53       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-07  1:20         ` Steve Kilbane
2000-08-19 21:44 Boyd Roberts

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