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From: rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: The problem with SSH2
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:56:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101261956.OAA30860@smtp4.fas.harvard.edu> (raw)

	it may just be the instances you have seen. i've spend a bit of time
	with the draft documents; there is nothing intrinsic to its protocol
	that necessiates those larded implementations. 

no, but there's also nothing intrinsic to the
task at hand that requires such a larded
ad-hoc protocol.  cpu(1) does everything
and more with just 9P and ssl.  while you
might complain about ssl, the complexity
of the ssh protocol is not in the layer-level
encryption code.  it's everything else.
you also might complain that 9P would be
too slow, but i tried it and found that the
small-packet latency was actually _less_
using 9P than using native ssh on the same
unix boxes for various networks.

we're stuck with ssh, but let's not delude
ourselves into thinking it's a good protocol.

(i'm talking about ssh1; ssh2 looks worse.)

russ



             reply	other threads:[~2001-01-26 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-26 19:56 rsc [this message]
2001-01-26 20:46 ` Dan Cross
2001-01-29 13:40   ` David Rubin
2001-01-27  0:43 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  1:01 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27 14:34 ` Markus Friedl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-27  2:34 rob pike
2001-01-27  2:37 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  2:13 dmr
2001-01-27  2:30 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-27  1:04 presotto
2001-01-01 15:37 rob pike
2001-01-01 15:43 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02  8:27   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-01-02 17:49   ` cLIeNUX user
2001-01-01 14:37 rob pike
2001-01-01 15:18 ` Markus Friedl
     [not found] <20001231162642.A9783@folly>
2000-12-31 17:55 ` Jim Choate
2001-01-01  7:38   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-26 14:33     ` Ozan Yigit

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