From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: anothy@cosym.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] How useable is Plan9? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010223200449.89A95199DC@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:04:39 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 69e1d256-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 there's a bunch of people who use Plan 9 regularly, in a variation of mixed environments to exclusive use. it's quite usable, if you kwow what you're getting into. it doesn't do _everything_, and some things have a very different feel to them. but the short answer to your question is "yes", and lots of people use it that way. the remainder is specific testimonial as to my setup. i use plan 9 every day as my primary work environment. i use troff to write things, and `page' to view postscript, pdf, gif, etc. i use Acme mail as my mail reader, for multiple mailboxes. i use Charon (part of the Inferno distribution) as a web browser, and it works on ~%95 of the sites i want to get to. plan 9 has some image manipulation tools, although certainly nothing like the Gimp or Photoshop. it had more in the 2nd edtion, but they've been lost to the new graphics model. as mentioned above, however, plan 9 does not do it all. there's no nntp reader, as far as i know (although there was for the 2nd edition), and there are a few sites (like my bank) that Charon won't work on (usually because they insist i'm running an "outdated" version of my browser and i need to upgrade, despite the fact that Charon'll do everything they need). for these two things i use VNC (which is impressivly fast over slow networks) to connect to a Solaris box running Netscape. the biggest thing for a new user trying to use Plan 9 regularly is to not expect it to be Unix/Linux. there is (thankfully, i think) no KDE or GNOME, nor X at all. the host of GNU tools is not there, and the development environment is probably different than what you're used to. the shell is rc, not bash/ksh/tcsh. more generally, the entire feel of the system is different - more focus on "clean and elegant" than "neat and cool". -α.