From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] panning or scrolling, page(1) From: rog@vitanuova.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ijkbwvqqznqsomsmyxxyiueqyr" Message-Id: <20010304180958.D4E68199E3@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:15:23 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6bfd03ee-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ijkbwvqqznqsomsmyxxyiueqyr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i like the panning model too, but i don't tend to view very large images. when you've got a large image (many times the size of the area you can see), panning can be a bit of a problem because you can only go a small distance at once. i.e. if i'm at the bottom left of a large image and i want to go to the top right, it might take me 10 or so "click & pan" mouse movements to get there. but for images that size, maybe a different interface is called for anyway. my last job was writing radio propagation prediction software, which involved the viewing of large maps (e.g. the entire of the UK with one height sample every 100m). i once accidentally created quite a nice viewing interface when i set the map to be always centred around the transmitter. normally, you could drag transmitters around with the mouse, and i hadn't yet disabled this, so when i dragged the transmitter, it moved, but the map kept up, giving the nice sensation of flying over the landscape. (as long as i kept wiggling the mouse...) maybe that kind of interface might sit better with the panning that page uses (e.g. middle button "marks the spot", and map keeps panning at a speed proportional to the vector from the spot to the current mouse position). i always find it a little disconcerting that the middle button quits page so abruptly anyway. cheers, rog. --upas-ijkbwvqqznqsomsmyxxyiueqyr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for rog@vitanuova.com id 983587834:10:13126:3; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:50:34 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012954; 3 Mar 2001 2:50 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 66DA819A0B; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 04C5E199DC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:49:29 -0500 (EST) To: cse.psu.edu!9fans Subject: Re: [9fans] panning or scrolling, page(1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010303024929.04C5E199DC@mail.cse.psu.edu> Sender: cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cse.psu.edu!9fans List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:49:26 -0500 I strongly prefer the panning model to the scrolling model. It's so much easier to use I wish it were available everywhere. Are you really asking for some indication of what part of the image is visible? Scroll bars provide that at the cost of a crappy interface, but there's no reason at all why a panning interface can't give you some indication of what subset of the entire object you're viewing. -rob --upas-ijkbwvqqznqsomsmyxxyiueqyr--