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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] silly slider tool for rio
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In-Reply-To: <20010307155821.C445619A25@mail.cse.psu.edu>; from nemo@gsyc.escet.urjc.es on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:15:06PM -0500
Date: Wed,  7 Mar 2001 18:17:51 +0200
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On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:15:06PM -0500, nemo@gsyc.escet.urjc.es wrote:
> 
> : Unless I'm misinterpreting the mood, I would think that Bell Labs are
> : not faithful followers of the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" religion.
> 
> I just don't like bazaars, I was talking about silly tiny tools,
> nice plumber rules, etc. that cannot be considered as part of the release.
> And it was just to avoid using google to locate new tools done this month
> by 9fans...
> ...you know, mpeg3play, acd, rgb, pop3get, ext2fs, et al.

Yes, I think the list of software, good or bad, should be easier to
find.  Unfortunately, that requires dedication as well as
co-operation, something understandably missing where people have a job
to do.

And I think that the crucial item is documentation.  RSC's little
tools are wonderful, if one didn't have to look at their text to
figure out what they do (no criticism implied here either, Russ).

A searchable web site might be a good idea, again, assuming the wiki
is not the preferable tool (I really must take a look at it).  There
Vita Nuova would seem in a favourable position indeed.

++L

PS: I really didn't mean to sound critical in any fashion, and I would
like to find a co-operative development for Plan 9 that did not risk
at each turn to fly in the face of the existing elegance.  It is
something the Bell Labs people should spend some time formalising.