From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: anothy@cosym.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010609230549.9B198199C0@mail.cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] comp sci departments in universities Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:05:38 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: b2d71a52-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 //It's a sad state of affairs, but I think that it will improve; i think it already has, at least in some places. many universities were catering to the dot-coms, hoping that the resulting alums would give money back to the school. Stanford took a lot of heat for this practice because - unlike most schools - they came out and said it. but i think the mentality that fuled the decisions in many universities to make C++ a student's first programing language were fuled - at least largely - by those universities lust for a bit of that pie. and as the dot-com era ends - or at least the money returns to sub-stratospheric levels - at least some universities have reversed that decision. i think more will follow, if only for the purely economic reason that they find their alums are less qualified in the industry as a whole - once they leave their dot-com who's primary products are their web site and their stock - and thus less able to give the university cash back. of cource, i'd _like_ to believe that many universities will come to their senses for more "pure" reasons - realizing that what they're teaching isn't computer science at all - but i'm a bit too skeptical to buy that without evidence. -α.