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From: Digby Tarvin <digbyt@acm.org>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] thread
Date: Mon,  9 Jul 2001 12:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107091146.MAA27082@cthulhu.dircon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B491B74.607DAB8D@null.net> from "Douglas A. Gwyn" at "Jul 9, 2001 08:33:03 am"

I think you misunderstand. I was referring to the application of '&' to
a variable of array type, not to a type. Applied to an array type, it
produces a change of type but no change in value. An unusual case
where the '&' operator could be replaced by a cast with no change
in semantics.  I would say that was special treatment, (resulting
from the special treatments of array names) albeit in accordance
with the C standard.

Regards,
DigbyT

Douglas A. Gwyn:

> Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > I was aware that the array type was special in that the application of
> > the '&' operator to it resulted in a change of type but not of value.
>
> ? One cannot (meaningfully) apply & to a type, only to a certain kind
> of expression.  When that expression consists of an identifier that
> has been declared as an object having array type, then in fact
> &that_identifier is *not* treated specially, according to the C
> standard, but rather follows the generic rules for the & operator.
> What is special is the special rule that the unadorned identifier
> decays, in most contexts, into a pointer to the first element of the
> array designated by that identifier; this is closely connected with
> arrays not being first-class objects in C.  It is often convenient,
> but is not natural.
>
--
Digby R. S. Tarvin                                              digbyt@acm.org
http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-09 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-06  5:55 dmr
2001-07-06 16:54 ` Digby Tarvin
2001-07-09  8:33   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-09 11:46     ` Digby Tarvin [this message]
2001-07-09 17:03       ` Dan Cross
2001-07-09 11:49     ` Boyd Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-06  4:15 arisawa
2001-07-06 14:41 ` Dan Cross
2001-07-06 18:24   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-06  1:02 rob pike
2001-07-06  0:50 arisawa
2001-07-06  2:05 ` Dan Cross

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