From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bwc@borf.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] architectures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010711150629.BD1CF199C0@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:07:02 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: c56f2164-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 I would think that people on this list would all agree that the Intel IA32 is the canonical example of bad design. I have long pined for hardware with ANY SORT of decent architecture. At one point I even tossed all my Intel books! While I can find other processors here and there, I have reached the conclusion that I'm stuck with Intel for the foreseeable future. I write software that I put on hardware to do something useful for my customers. I am obligated by conscience to provide the fastest and least expensive hardware to my customers as I can find. I have no other choice but use Intel stuff. It is very fast, very cheap and very reliable. Special purpose hardware excluded, nothing else comes even close. So, with a heavy heart, I resigned myself to embracing this nasty architecture for the sake of my customers, who, thank heavens, has no knowledge of the awful mess that lies beneath. Fortunately, information on Intel motherboards has become more open, and more developers are using Intel hardware as platforms for doing things other than Windows. I developed two products that are now sold by Cisco Systems using off the shelf Intel stuff: PIX Firewall and LocalDirector. These products still use Intel Motherboards because it wouldn't pay Cisco to redesign any of them. Brantley Coile