From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] architectures From: nemo@gsyc.escet.urjc.es MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ntkutawpmmowsknapcivgjaefj" Message-Id: <20010712101547.82162199ED@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:30:06 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: c70c620c-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ntkutawpmmowsknapcivgjaefj Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may be missing something, but wouldn't it be just a matter of adding a different user interface? Admin is a different thing, but the servers could be administered by a different person... --upas-ntkutawpmmowsknapcivgjaefj Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu (postfix@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by gsyc.escet.urjc.es (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA19347; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:10:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: gsyc.escet.urjc.es: Host postfix@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6] claimed to be mail.cse.psu.edu Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B1C7A199E8; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cassie.foobarbaz.net (195.mudb.snfc.snfccafj.dsl.att.net [12.99.91.195]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id F119D199C0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86803 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jul 2001 09:59:37 -0000 From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] architectures Message-ID: <20010712025937.J78865@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20010712061553.C4EE7199E1@mail.cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010712061553.C4EE7199E1@mail.cse.psu.edu>; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 03:16:57PM +0900 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:59:37 -0700 On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 03:16:57PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > There are people and people who are using 'computers' now. This may be > false for many of such peoples, at least, some of them would be better to > use such tools as "keitai" in Japan which has very limited buttons and even > lacking keyboard. It means that a kind of computer, road off from the main > /real meaning of itself, will be neccessary to appear which does not look > like 'computer' and very very limited usage for some particular purpose. > Hmm, can we call it 'computer'? :-) I'm speculating on this, but I think it's where we're going. Computers are going to become more and more like appliances; they will be in everything. Our greatest hurdle is usability. Plan9 goes a long way in the realm of usability, but it's geared towards programmers. You can't effectively make a system that is usable for everyone; my mom couldn't use Plan9. We need to consider that there are going to be models of usability that cater to specific types of usage/people. Not all users of computers are programmers, nor should they be. Don't get me wrong. As a geek, I love Plan9. -- Christopher Nielsen - Metal-wielding pyro techie cnielsen@pobox.com "Any technology indistinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced." --unknown --upas-ntkutawpmmowsknapcivgjaefj--