From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how people learn things (was architectures) From: rog@vitanuova.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-mhoodfhnkywgceqwjwbdccjrtm" Message-Id: <20010713161239.A8E3D199E7@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:22:13 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: ccbdfeae-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-mhoodfhnkywgceqwjwbdccjrtm Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Me, too. I think it would be useful to have a program (script?) > that invoked a text editor ("sam" in my case) and whenever the > source file was modified (sam "w" command), fire up troff|proof > or whatever (including troff macros, etc.) in a *separate* window > to show the current formatted result. The idea is to not > interrupt the editing session to view the result. i remember ages ago reading in a paper about somebody (on the Blit?) doing that. personally, i think it's quite nice *not* to have the visual feedback all the time - that way i can concentrate on the content of the text i'm creating without being distracted by occasional display glitches. --upas-mhoodfhnkywgceqwjwbdccjrtm Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for rog@vitanuova.com id 995039550:10:07433:2; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:52:30 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007296; 13 Jul 2001 15:52 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F0B48199F3; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 577FB199C0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 15L57J-0007TM-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:44:33 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <3B4F0AC0.A13D016E@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20010713124934.B1573199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] how people learn things (was architectures) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:44:05 GMT presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > while(`{read}){ > troff ... |lp -dstdout > x.ps > page x.ps > } > That's usually good enough for me to see quickly the effect of my > changes. However, WYSIWYG would be nicer. It might even be worth > doing. Its just that when most of us get used to troff, the drive > for doing a formatter for the uninitiated goes down. Me, too. I think it would be useful to have a program (script?) that invoked a text editor ("sam" in my case) and whenever the source file was modified (sam "w" command), fire up troff|proof or whatever (including troff macros, etc.) in a *separate* window to show the current formatted result. The idea is to not interrupt the editing session to view the result. --upas-mhoodfhnkywgceqwjwbdccjrtm--