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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: Plan 9 annoyances (was: Re: [9fans] mv vs cp)
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In-Reply-To: <200110080838.f988c0Y95817@ducky.net>; from Mike Haertel on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 01:38:00AM -0700
Date: Mon,  8 Oct 2001 11:08:03 +0200
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 01:38:00AM -0700, Mike Haertel wrote:
> 
> >> Often.  This is one of the things that most irritates me about Plan 9.
> >
> >Talk about extreme responses :-)
> 
> What's this, can't the Plan 9 Thought Police take a little criticism? :-)
> 
Well, here I'm saying I never cause file contents to be moved around,
and on the other hand there's a response that says "often".  Those are
the extremes.  Sorry I wasn't more explicit :-)

> More seriously, an extreme response would be something like giving
> up Plan 9.  If anything, I am using it more often these days.
> 
You're right, of course.  And it's good that Bell Labs released Plan 9
to a more critical audience, even though we do occasionally get their
goat with our requests.

In your list, a few issues would be very easy to correct, and I'm sure
the right amount of fedback (call it code, if that's what it takes)
will be accepted.  So, probably, would be an attempt to provide a
semi-sane "rename" capability.

Looking at Russ making progress on so many fronts, I would say we can
all vote with our code.  Even to the extreme of re-introducing ALEF,
if I was willing to complete the port to 3ed.

++L