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From: William Josephson <wkj-despam@eecs.harvard.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] mv vs cp
Date: Mon,  8 Oct 2001 12:02:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011008120252.B34170@honk.eecs.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15qcTf-0007iJ-00@localhost>; from greon@best.com on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:37:59AM -0700

On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:37:59AM -0700, Richard wrote:
> I do it all the time (at least 5, 10 times a month) on Linux, because
> I'm kind of compulsive about maintaining just the right names for data
> files I care about.
> 
> The point is not that it is necessary, but rather that millions are
> already used to being able to do it, and letting them do it on Plan 9
> (provided of course it is implemented cleanly) will lower the obstacle
> to their become Plan 9 users.

But Plan 9 is not Unix and the more one tries to make it look like
Unix, feel like Unix, or quack like Unix, the more grief one comes to.
Under Unix I use mv to move trees around fairly frequently (as often
as once or twice a day), although at least half the time it is across
partitions so the point is moot anyway.  The urge to do this
disappeared pretty quickly when I started using Plan 9 to the
exclusion of Unix this summer.  I'm more of a neat-freak when it comes
to directory structure than most and I still didn't feel the loss.
Perhaps having a real fileserver makes the difference, but I'd suggest
living for a while with Plan 9 as Plan 9 and not Unix and see if you
still find it intolerable.  I think the biggest obstacle to using Plan
9 is knowing that it was built in the same room as Unix.

  -WJ


  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-08 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-08  5:05 jmk
2001-10-08  5:45 ` Mike Haertel
2001-10-08  6:27   ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  8:38     ` Plan 9 annoyances (was: Re: [9fans] mv vs cp) Mike Haertel
2001-10-08  9:08       ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  6:25 ` [9fans] mv vs cp Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  9:50 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-08  9:51 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-08 15:37 ` Richard
2001-10-08 16:02   ` William Josephson [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-11  3:19 anothy
2001-10-11  3:00 okamoto
2001-10-11  2:18 Russ Cox
2001-10-11  1:06 okamoto
2001-10-10 13:18 forsyth
2001-10-10  1:45 okamoto
2001-10-09 17:16 presotto
2001-10-09 16:59 rog
2001-10-09 16:39 forsyth
2001-10-10  8:49 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 12:25 rob pike
2001-10-09 16:18 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 12:05 forsyth
2001-10-09  1:46 okamoto
2001-10-09  5:46 ` Richard
2001-10-08 16:54 presotto
2001-10-08 16:11 anothy
2001-10-08 14:46 rob pike
2001-10-08 15:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08 15:14   ` Markus Friedl
2001-10-08 16:22 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08 13:03 rob pike
2001-10-08 14:40 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08 13:00 rob pike
2001-10-09  9:04 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-09 11:43   ` George Michaelson
2001-10-10  8:57     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-10 11:50       ` Borja Marcos
2001-10-10 11:53         ` Borja Marcos
2001-10-08  6:54 nigel
2001-10-07 21:20 nigel
2001-10-07 19:11 presotto
2001-10-08  7:33 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-10-07 18:53 presotto
2001-10-07 16:23 jmk
2001-10-08  4:28 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  4:49   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:10     ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  6:34       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:49         ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  7:00           ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  7:13             ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  7:44               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  7:28             ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:54       ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  7:10         ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  8:28           ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  9:51     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-08 10:30       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-09  9:03         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09  9:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-09 15:58             ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 16:43               ` davel
2001-10-10  8:49                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-10-10  8:49                 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-10  9:48                   ` davel
2001-10-11  9:10                     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-11 10:54                       ` davel
2001-10-12  9:19                         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 16:46               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10  8:50                 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-10 10:29                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10  1:05               ` erik quanstrom
2001-10-10  2:15                 ` david presotto
2001-10-10  4:54                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-10-10  8:30                 ` davel
2001-10-08 10:34       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-10-08  9:50   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-08 11:13     ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  9:42 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-07 12:43 presotto
2001-10-07 13:01 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-07 17:26 ` philw
2001-10-07  7:02 forsyth
2001-10-07  6:35 Russ Cox
2001-10-08  9:41 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-07  6:29 Lucio De Re
2001-10-07  6:42 ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-10-07  9:17   ` Lucio De Re

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