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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:54:28 +0100
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 09:10:20AM +0000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:

> Ah!  The job of software is not to make users' lives easier.  Not to
> provide them tools to be more productive.

What has that got to do with putting in hacks to get round mistakes?

> No--the job of the computer is to administer punishments for their
> errors.
> 
> Are you really serious?

Are YOU really serious?  Who said anything about punishment?

My point is that
a) we shouldn't be putting in hacks to ameliorate user mistakes:
   do you want undelete in there too?
b) Plan9 already has this nice-flexible FS architecture
   which gets around lots of the directory shuffling
   necessary on other OSs.

> There are reasons to have a feature, and reasons not to.  But "we want
> to punish people for making mistakes" is never a reason not to, and it
> sounds like you have run out of steam when that's all you muster.

a) It sounds like you have run out of steam if all you can do is misconstrue
   my meaning.
b) You make me sound like a sadist according to your logic,
   when in fact I'm a sado-masochist, since I'm punishing myself too!

Can we now please agree to differ?
This has gone on long enough.

Cheers,
	Dave.